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SineSierra
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Amanita Muscaria
#5921263 - 08/01/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have only experienced one trip (approx. 3 weeks ago) and nothing has come close to such a wonderful experience as shrooms! Alcohol and Cannabis have been my only "inebriators of choice," but when my girlfriend introduced me to shrooms.....oh man! I was blown away! I feel much more open-minded about almost everything now, and more in-tune with people and nature! Life has a better feel to it now, and now I would like to experience these spiritual trips more often.
Problem is, I canNOT find any cubies around, and I have just finished extensive research on erowid, and old posts here, and am curious as to whether iamshaman.com distributes reputable batches of fly agaric or not. While ordering 10x salvia extract (from iamshaman.com), I happened across several currently legal psychoactive plants, including Amanita Muscaria. I feel comfortable enough to give them a shot, but I am understandably reluctant and skeptical when it comes to trying them out.
Also, post any kind of extra info you may have on fly agaric, just so I may feel reassured.
Thanks, and happy tripping all!
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
#5921336 - 08/01/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanitas have been described as the darker side of psychedelics. While Cubes are enlightening and euphoric, Amanitas tend to be confusing with a high body load. If I were you I'd try to integrate the experience into your daily life more and wait a while for your next mushroom trip.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: DIRTYMAN]
#5921492 - 08/01/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also.....on iamshaman it says the morning glory seeds (heavenly blue) are untreated and not for human consumption, and the fly agaric are poisonous.
I assume this is for legal purposes, but are they truly warning against anything other than nausea? I've read the same for fly agaric, but are there any special procedures that are absoultely neccessary for consuming either of these products? Considering that I am being as cautious as possible, I won't get sick and die from morning glories or fly agaric, right?
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
#5921586 - 08/01/06 11:35 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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SineSierra said: Also.....on iamshaman it says the morning glory seeds (heavenly blue) are untreated and not for human consumption, and the fly agaric are poisonous.
I assume this is for legal purposes, but are they truly warning against anything other than nausea? I've read the same for fly agaric, but are there any special procedures that are absoultely neccessary for consuming either of these products? Considering that I am being as cautious as possible, I won't get sick and die from morning glories or fly agaric, right?
It is mainly for legal purposes. I have tried their HBWR seeds and their fly agaric. I found out that LSA is not my drug but it did work. When I did their fly agaric, i just felt a heavy body load and kinda drunk, sleep also wasn't the easiest thing with either. Both will make you nauseas though so be carefull, especially the morning glory or HBWR.
Besides that, you will never know how you personally feel about them until you try them. Some people like those kind of drugs.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: drSE]
#5921678 - 08/01/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fly Agaric is one of those things that some people really love, and some people (dare I say, most people) really hate. Only one way to know where you fall on this one
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: drSE]
#5921684 - 08/01/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3744422
http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory.shtml
Check the Related Threads, below. And use search forum.
As far I can remember reading, there are no reported known deaths from Amanita muscaria, A.muscaria var. formosa or A.pantherina. Right? Still many other amanitas are deadly. Death cap for example.
Here is a video of two guys tripping on a weird setting  Check the whole serie, its there. Sacred Weeds: Fly Agaric, part 4: [url=youtube.com/watch?v=XQkcvdOrPew&mode=related&search=sacred%20weeds%20fly[/url]
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: drSE]
#5921689 - 08/01/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm going to order an ounce of the grade A Washington State Amanita Muscaria and probably 1500 Morning Glory seeds......I also ordered a 3g bag of 10x Salvia Divinorum extract 2 days ago.
I have this constant urge to experience all sorts of organic psychoactives now, after my single trip with Cubensis. Is this normal?
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
#5921713 - 08/01/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, firstly, cubes are a psychadelic hallucinogen. That means you feel trippy, and you hallucinate.
A. Muscaria is not a psychadelic hallucinogen, it contains multiple deleriants. This means that you will not experience so much a trip as you will delerium. I can't really explain it. They're rather different.
To give you an idea however, Vikings were renowned for their ferocity in battle. They also used to eat large amounts of a. muscaria before battle. Apparently it would make them go delerious with rage, and make them seemingly impervious to harm.
From the stories I've heard, they seem more like pcp than they do like a cube.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
#5921717 - 08/01/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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SineSierra said: I'm going to order an ounce of the grade A Washington State Amanita Muscaria and probably 1500 Morning Glory seeds......I also ordered a 3g bag of 10x Salvia Divinorum extract 2 days ago.
I have this constant urge to experience all sorts of organic psychoactives now, after my single trip with Cubensis. Is this normal?
Yes. It's normal.
However if you're looking for things that make you feel the same as psilocybe then your expectations will fall very short.
All of these drugs are very, very different. Psilocybe are a particularly 'easy' drug compared to things like morning glory or salvia IMO.
I'm not trying to scare you away from things other than shrooms... I have tried salvia and morning glory from (the site you ordered from) and I enjoyed both very much.
Morning glory is very enlightening and profound, but expensive in terms of mental and physical load. I would suggest it only for a person who has a mind they consider strong, and a mind they trust.
Salvia is very mysterious and 'unexpected'. I have felt a definite sensation of communication from external entities on salvia (not to say this has lead me to believe in fairies). I have been the closest to having an 'out of body experience' on salvia (while running from cops, incidentally. long story.).
I'm yet to try amanitas.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
#5921739 - 08/01/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tell us more about your first trip, maybe it was nice and euphoric, next trip may be different. You should proceed with caution and be prepared and read how to do in case of a bad trip. Set and setting. It's wonderful to hear that your GF likes to trip with you, that will be a big bonus. How experienced is she? She can be an invaluable help and turn trip good.
Just be careful with salvia too. I really recommend you to start from threshold levels and get used to the feelings. That way you can gain more from a lesser dosage. You work your way to know how it works. It is much a learning experience. Sure you can be blown into pieces by first try and heavy 20x dosage. I thought this was the way to use salvia when I started reading about it. Now I know better and otherwise.
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That's what I've gained from my reading and research on erowid and old threads here. I definitely don't expect the same great time i had with cubies, but I am aiming for any form of enlightment. I was left with a little bit of an altered way of thinking, and I'm hopeful that these substances will do the same. While my girlfriend and I were tripping, everything about my persona had come out, and she even told me that she understands me better now. During the trip, as crazy as I was, I literally split into two seperate people......as if I have been two, but never seperated. I had arguments and converations with myself, as I ran around the house, hid under my bed shaking and laughing hysterically, and she stayed by me and watched the whole thing. Parts of the trip I cannot remember, but she fills in details. At the time, this was all very unpleasant, but the higher understanding and greater honesty I have gained about myself is very relieving. I felt better, having vented all this pent-up emotion since I was a child (I'm 21 now, having had problems since I was 8 or 9). My goal with these other products, and hopefully cubies again and more often someday: Insight and honesty about who I am, and what I'd like to become.
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CHeck out the Cultivation forum !!!
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Haha! That was my first time on this site. I went straight to researching how to grow my own, and although I know more than beforehand, I'm still confused as to everything I would need to grow a batch of cubies (enough for myself and a friend) or how to even set it all up. As of now, that is my FAVORITE experience of my life, and I would love to trip more often, but in the meantime, I thought I'd experiment with other psychoactives to gain a better perspective on them in general. But, oh man.....I would love to grow my own cubensis.....or at least find a fuckin' dealer.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
#5922938 - 08/01/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had a similar initiation to psychedelics as you did SineSierra, except it wasn't triggered by a girlfriend. My first altered state came from alcohol, then cubies, then pot, then amainta muscaria, then salvia. I've yet to try LSD or LSA.
I can, though, provide you with some valuable information (if you haven't learnt this already). When doing Amanita Muscaria, I found that the best way to take them is in tea form. All you need is a coffe grinder; through some grams in there (start low, 5ish) and grind them till they are a powder. Then begin to heat some water. Don't let it boil though. As soon as bubbles start to forming and rising to the top, that's when you should turn off the heat. Then simply pour the water over the ground a.muscaria and drink up. This procedure seems to eliminate most of the nausea. I have a particularly weak stomach, and though drinking that tea still tasted like shit, I had no nausea problems. It took over an hour for the muscaria to start to rise, which felt like I was drunk with a heavy body load. Might have been even 1hour and a half. But, at around the 1hour30min mark I would smoke pot. I did this everytime I've done muscaria and it's always made the trip better. Personally, when I did a.muscaria, all I wanted to do was lay on the carpet and listen to music or nothing at all. I spent the whole trip merely exploring the insides of my mind. There were no visual hallucinations and when I walked around it did feel like I was drunk. It was less of a hallucinogenic and more dillusional, IMO. It was like I was watching myself go crazy, and though that may sound negative it was still enlightening and enjoyable. Grinding up the muscaria will help to avoid nausea and hence a negative attitude toward the drug.
Salvia is.... otherwordly. Be very careful with your dosage and respect the drug. A water bong is best, and a torch isn't necessary. And don't get discouraged if the salvia doesn't work at first. It took me 7times or so before I tripped. (But, that might just be me. An idiot with inhalation problems. ::fart noise::) I got both my salvia and my amanitas from iamshaman.com, and they were both of high quality, especially the salvia! 
I've never done LSA but as I understand it, preparation is everything. Shitty preparation will lead to nausea and a shitty experience. I don't know how to prepare it properly, but I'd like to learn to do so soon. A few searches on this forum sound prove fruitful.
To summarize: grind your muscaria into tea form and have pot with you (reduces nausea and increases trip); respect salvia and use a water bong; and find an extraction method for LSA.
I hope I was somewhat helpful and not too tedious in my response.
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Seems as if we have similar-tracked minds. Thanks everyone for the great answers. Erowid doesn't have all the answers to my questions, and this is just what I needed. Most notably, ShroomScape.....I appreciate it!
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
#5923920 - 08/02/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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one summer we collected a bunch of amanitas and make a tea with them, we cooked them in an oven at 150 degrees to destroy the toxic part of the mushroom, then we chopped them up and made a tea. i drank the most it wasnt very fun.. nausea cold sweat something was up, i think if you use the red flyagerics it would be alot different
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Hopefully you used either the red or yellow agarics. muscaria or Amanita m. v formosa.
As long as its amanita M, you have the goods....The color doesnt really matter much. They are red with spots, or yellow with white spots.
You can trip off of other amanitas but with very bad physical effects. Or you could die. Amanitas are one of the most deadly mushrooms if you eat the right kind. Death cap etc.....
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: yageman]
#5924161 - 08/02/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Once you get your hands on those psychedelics, let us know how the trips turn out SineSierra. I personally love reading other ppl's impressions and your introduction to drugs seems similar to mine. In the meantime, I'll begin looking into LSA extraction myself. happy trippings
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morning glories are great. Just eat some and unless you are really fragile they will provide a great trip. SOme people tend to complain and give lsa plants a bad name.
I never had one bit of trouble with any lsa seeds(in any way). I just chewed the weird tasting fuckers. Had great trips.
Good luck to you.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: yageman]
#5924594 - 08/02/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanitas are one of my favorites, I enjoy them more than cubes. If you are worried about Look alikes; you shouldn't be buying from an entheo store but the two to look out for are Amanita Phalloides (Death CAP) and The green-gilled lepiotia (these have white/green then dark brown gills but are hard to distinguish when young and are still white gilled). Other than that always grind your shrooms up into powder for potency consistency and start conservative, you can always redose but never undose
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Damn. Sounds like you have the same frame of mind as me, so hopefully my experience will follow the same path you took. Thanks for the awesome responses, everybody (most notably ShroomScape!) I am expecting my salvia tomorrow, and will let everyone know how it goes with that. May order the seeds and caps as well. I really appreciate this, since erowid doesn't really have much relatable info that would answer some of the questions of mine. Oh well.
hope that salvia comes soon.....
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
#5924980 - 08/02/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanitas were my first shroom experience. But I never got more effects than slight sedative effect. It was few experiments, with less than 10g (5g, 6g, 7.5g) dry with that tea method (no boiling water, and did not eat the mush).
I can't remember why I stopped experimenting but back then, I put 10g into storage. It has been waiting there for 10 months now. If the oven method didn't convert all Ibotenic acid then the slow cure might have done the thing?
Just waiting for a proper setting.
Yes, remember to standardize your material. Chop, grind and mix your mushrooms together. This way you will not experience differences in mushroom material's potency.
By the way, I have a question if there is someone to have experience of 'Amanita extracts' (aka. 'amanita syrup' 'amanita goo'?)?
I had some juice that I concentrated from the A.muscarias that I dried in my oven. There was about 200ml of amanita liquid. I dried the amanitas in a big SSteel bowl which captured the liquid. It is said that you should pour this liquid back to the mushrooms to increase potency. But I collected it and dried it in a flat glass bowl. I scraped it together into a small blob with razor blade. It is sized as big as about 2 sugar cubes are. Its kind of 'red blob' that makes a lot of bubbles and morphing when I torch it, like in the end of a match.
I am a little concerned about the potency of this product.
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this is interesting... I wonder what this goo is? Have you tried ingesting or smoking it in anyway? I have heard of this goo before and it is proper to just pour it back on the mushies.
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I have tried smoking it from a bong. All it did was to turn the skin black and then the inside would boil and bubble from within.. its hard to explain. It burns and bubbles. No noticeable effects from a pea sized portion. I can try estimating the size of goo and measure its weight but it will be a rough estimate, not exact.
I haven't been about to eat it as it is but.. Hmm, the goo is probably water soluble, so you could just knife a piece from it and make some tea? I might try that. But I don't know how many X-factors does it have. So how much should I try at first? How do you produce 10X amanita extracts.. or what ever they sell? Is it just so that the goo settles on to a standard density (or nX) when it dries out? [does the amount of mushrooms, that are under drying process on which the amanita fluid is collected, affect the potency of end product ('goo')? or does it just increase the amount of goo?
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actually I think the extracts they sell come with three layers of stuff for some reason. I have no experience or idea why.
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Sounds just like wormwood extract. You may have to heat it up on some tinfoil and chase the vapors with a straw.
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3 layers of stuff?
Could it be that they have dried the amanita liquid in a large flat bowl. They would then stack up pieces of that flat plate to sum up the amount they are selling?
Or?
About vaporizing, I have a setup that I use to vaporize stuff. I did try it out once but a little panic arise, I was thinking about that maybe it would surprise me in its effect and abandoned proceeding the test.
Don't you think that the active ingredients are destroyed by heat before vaporization?
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Wikipedia: Muscimol ... Consumption of carbonated beverages with mushrooms containing muscimol will only convert (or sometimes, revert) into ibotenic acid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscimol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscarine
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Some people have said that fly agaric doesn't produce visuals, at all. Maybe it's just the person, maybe not, I don't really know. But, I don't think that because of that it should be called a *deliriant*. I haven't tried jimson weed or datura, but I have dosed dramamine, and that was nothing like fly agaric. I think the title *psychedelic* should stay for the mushroom, and leave *deliriant* to actual deliriants. Feeling drunk and heavy, losing balance, can be experienced with deliriants, but what I got out of the mushroom was MUCH more than not being able to distinguish reality from long gone friends that are now walking and talking with you in your living room. But, I think everybody should try amanitas, along with salvia, at least once. I wish smoked salvia lasted longer, but I may just have to find a plain leaf to chew on to fix my needs.
I've chomped far too many morning glory seeds, and I don't think I'll ever forget that ground taste - not one of my favorite things to be stuck in my memory. Last night I ate hawaiian baby woodrose seeds my first time, and since they taste exactly the same as MG seeds, I ground them up and mixed it with orange juice. I would recommend HBWR over MGS because of the quantity difference.
Good luck with your adventures!
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astraalialma said: Tell us more about your first trip, maybe it was nice and euphoric, next trip may be different. You should proceed with caution and be prepared and read how to do in case of a bad trip. Set and setting. It's wonderful to hear that your GF likes to trip with you, that will be a big bonus. How experienced is she? She can be an invaluable help and turn trip good.
She (Mariah) has a strange reaction to drugs. Or rather, a lack therof. She hardly ever has a true trip, apparently. My girlfriend is about 5'2" and 105 lbs....tiny girl, and she has eaten an a little more than an entire eighth of the same shrooms I ate, and merely saw the clouds blowing her kisses. But on the trip we had together, she didn't hallucinate once, and spent the whole thing keeping me out of trouble, bless her heart. She witnessed my emotional breakdown and complete schizophrenic episode, learning everything about me that I've kept inside as to avoid scaring her away. I remember parts of the trip, and I clearly recall pulling her close to me, and immediately pushing her away again, then every so often jumping up from the floor where we were laying and bolting around the house, laughing hysterically, launching myself into bedto cry under the covers. When I first began to come up, I was sitting on a chair next to her, smiling like a lunatic with tears rolling down my face, as if the smile hurt so terribly but I couldn't stop myself. After this, most of the time I was talking extremely fast, blathering complete psychotic nonsense. my two very opposite halves conversing and on occasion talking with her as well. She eventually forced me out of the house and into the city since my stepbrother came home from work and I was rolling on the floor, pants around my ankles, and we walked for a while....well, she walked, I stumbled. Mariah kept me from wandering out into traffic a TON of times, thank god, and she told the cops that questioned my inebriation that I was drunk and we were on our way back home. I remember smiling most of the time, and repeating that we were actors in a movie, over and over, and I believed it. Now, this is where everything gets sporatic and I can't remember much. But we sat down and lounged in a graveyard, and she talked with a homeless man who had followed us there. He apparently sat with us for a long while, and although he was completely harmless, I was so skeptical of all strangers that I said nothing. He laughed with Mariah, told her his name was Wes. Wes the Mess, he said. I was wild-eyed and looked like shit, I'm sure, and I kept standing, looking him square in the eye, then into hers and pulling on her arm, telling her we had to go. Don't know why. The entire trip I felt as if wherever we were was wrong and we had to go elsewhere, and I had to force myself to be anywhere else, or even to change our destination (although we had none). After that, I only remember being on the couch, pupils as big as my head , spaced out and answering my mother's questions. Mariah explained again that I was drunk. Then, I woke up and it was dark. I was laying with Mariah on the couch, and I felt that weeks had passed. Oh, and I think my trip was far too intense, because I ate an entire eighth, and this has sorta been my first time with anything besides marijuana. I can't recall anymore off the top of my head, but I felt so light and refreshed after the trip ended, disregarding my slight head/jaw/joint aches. All in all, Mariah has had shrooms probably 5 times, from what she's told me, and I would have been seriously hurt had she not been there to babysit me. After this little adventure though, she said that she's never seen anything like that, and drugs now scare her. This coming from a girl who went on coke binges, used to drink heavily, basically never turned down much (and shewas always around SOME substance). She brought them back from a beach trip, as a gift for me because I had mentioned, months ago, that I wanted to try mushrooms. I was against anything but alcohol and marijuana, and it upset me when Mariah told me of her using something at the beach. I would preach that I didn't appreciate her "doing that shit" and all that close-minded bullshit. Now she doesn't want anything to do with most any substance, and I want to try so much. Ironic. Plus, I feel like such a complete asshole for telling her no without any good reason besides pure naivity and worry, and then we completely change sides. She's still fuckin great though. Sorry for the rambling, I really felt like typing.
Oh, and thanks astraalialma for great those videos! I LOVE them, and they are great for witnessing firsthand what to, or not to, expect.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: SineSierra]
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Wow, thats .. dunno what to say. (except that you should format your text into paragraphs) Well, seems like you didn't have a proper set & setting? Because you had to leave the apartment to avoid confrontation of other people. This can cause bad vibes, the underlying worry and paranoia of others intruding the premises.
What ever happens, you should not fight it. Succumb into the powers. Remember, it is just momentary. You should also try meditation.
It is a good thing to be a little scared. That way you might not end up using them hastily. You may be much more sensitive to the mushrooms than your girl, that could explain a lot. And in this case, much lower dosage could have been 'more'. More in a way that you experience something beautiful, rather than this quite overpowering mad experience.

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SineSierra
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Yeah, good point about the paragraphs! Sorry about that. But that makes sense that my body may not have the capacity to "fight" any foreign substance very well, and she can. I'm sure her tolerance to drugs and the like is heightened quite a bit.
Looking back on the trip later that night, I felt like it was a good experience, sort of as if the bad trips have all been purged as one, and I'm sure that my pre-conceived notions of drugs in the first place had a huge role in the tone of my trip. All I knew about mushrooms was what I learned from tv or high school health class....no real source of the info a person REALLY needs to learn of the effects of this sort of thing. Not compared to actual experience, at least.
And first chance I get I will get more cubies without second thought, only this time, like you said, less than before and I will plan the trip ahead of time. Now I know a little more of what it really is like. At least now I know how much NOT to eat!
Regardless, I am so excited to have entered this whole new world of enlightenment and I'm blown away at how much I've learned about myself and my surroundings from my encounter with mushrooms.....marijuana doesn't quite do that.
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