jcldragon said:

So the Key is not what you are doing, as much as your attitude about it...

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spudamore said:

how about doing both at the same time, doing mindless uncreative work, and soul search at the same time.
when ever i find myself in a uncreative activity my body is like on automatic but mind is still soul searching.

remember even though we may do boring things or things that we don't want its still all a learning experience, maybe it just something we have to go through to expand.

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jcldragon said:

I've worked as a dishwasher, & looked at it as an exercise in Karma Yoga. That attitude allowed me to actually enjoy the job for the most part. The dishwasher is sort of insulated from most of what is going on in a restaurant. Generally, you can have your own background music, & usually people only talk with you, when they are running low on something. If you are organized about how you do the work, even that doesn't happen often. Stopping the dishwasher from doing their work in peace, only creates a backlog of what needs to be done, and nobody wants that.

The way I had it worked out, 90% of my conversation at work, was people dropping by to tell me a quick joke. The system I created, was based upon getting the busboys & waitresses to stack same size dish in same size pile. That way, I could grab a large stack of one thing, and run it through the machine in one tray, which also made it real easy to put away. I also had a bustray specificly for the dirty bowls (since they won't stack). The result was that I could do two heavy shifts of work in merely one shift, without actually working any harder. I was golden at that place, and eventually was making as much an hour as a cook.

So the Key is not what you are doing, as much as your attitude about it...

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My attitude about this job in particular is basically optimistic.  The people that I worked with were great, loving funny individuals.  Never too bossy, etc.  The problem is, it is keeping me stuck...in a sense.  Thats all.

I know ALL about that organization shit.  Considering I am the one who does the organizing.  Not only do I help bus tables, cause there are no bussers, I organize the damned things cause the waitreses are too fuckin lazy to do it themselves.  Correct, the dishwasher runs the bitch in a restaurant.  Not only do I open and close each day cause I was the only one, but I unloaded all the trucks, did all the prep, cooked on many occasions, swepted, mopped, delivered, run errands, its just too stressful really.  But the people were great, so i stayed.  It was family owned and I am now very close with the family, considering here in Florida I didnt have any of my own, really.

I cannot feel sorry for this business any longer, and I hate to leave cause they need the help, but I cant keep doing this to myself.  Working over 40 hours a week and only getting paid 6.25 is not what its all about.

in order to do my spiritual work, I am going to need basically complete seclusion.  And I am well prepared. 

Icelander said:

I hear you! I used to wonder all the same things. It all seemed so hypocritical of me.

But something I read from the Castanada books helps me understand it better. When Carlos asked Don Jaun if he should leave L.A. and move to the desert and be a Shaman there because he didn't see how it could be done in the civilized world. Don Jaun said " that is your hunting ground, and your world, all your work is there" Check out his concept of Controlled folly. Once you understand that you will know how to proceed.  This material world must be overcome like that ally must be tackled. Don Jaun said the path of a warrior is struggle. Each and every thing is a challenge and as a warrior goes to knowledge as one goes to war, he laughs and laughs.

Can you tell thats one of favs. Sorry if it isn't yours but you get the picture.

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I havent dove into that series as much as i would like too, but respected work indefinitely.

I am glad you posted this.  Thank you.  Agreed

DoctorJ said:

happiness is not in this world.  better look for it within you.

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Very much agreed.  I have just realized recently that it is hard for me to look within myself through all the worldly pollution, as I am sure you understand.  thats why I am leaving, on a spiritual journey...once again

Paradigm said:

Why do you assume them to be separate?

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