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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Annom]
    #4132673 - 05/04/05 01:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

According to that study, the likelihood of my believing in Creationism will go up significantly in two months.


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"the prophet is coming" [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4132710 - 05/04/05 01:11 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

wait until nehimiah scudder is elected (if that's the word) president, the next elections are cancelled, washington is renamed "new jerusalem", & america is officially established as a theocracy, with no furriners or non-believers welcome...

(the story of the second american revolution is told by heinlein in his "if this goes on-" ...

"the depths of human stupidity have yet to be plumbed"
attributed to r. a. heinlein
ymmv...)




remember, tennessee teacher scopes was indeed CONVICTED of illegally teaching evolution in public school back in the '20s (clarence darrow for defense & william jennings bryant for the prosecution; you may have seen the film "inherit the wind"?)
but he (mr scopes) was only fined $200, & not tarred & feathered & ridden out of town on a rail, like some folks mighta been hopin'...


whazzat?


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InvisiblePsychoactive1984
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Re: "the prophet is cuming" [Re: gnrm23]
    #4132724 - 05/04/05 01:14 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You know... you really know how to depress a guy.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4132783 - 05/04/05 01:25 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
are mexicans smarter?
I am getting depressed.




Why do you think they are giving you "burritos", free natural gas production ?
What about sleeping the "siesta", isn't it smart ? .... after a nice meal with wine and a fat joint to set the grand finale, oh my :crazy2: ...

MAIA

p.s.: burrito = little donkey or little stupid/idiot (damn this private jokes)


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InvisiblePsychoactive1984
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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: MAIA]
    #4132823 - 05/04/05 01:31 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

:wtf:?


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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Offlinegnrm23
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Re: "the prophet is coming" [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4133061 - 05/04/05 02:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Psychoactive1984 said:
You know... you really know how to depress a guy.





awww, shucks... i'm jus' doin' what i can...


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InvisibleVvellum
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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Swami]
    #4133488 - 05/04/05 03:48 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Vvellum]
    #4133513 - 05/04/05 03:56 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

And 26% of us still hang up on people that call us in the middle of dinner.


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Vvellum]
    #4133528 - 05/04/05 04:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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bi0 said:
Poll Says Most Americans say Iraq war not worth it

...maybe we are wising up.




I remember this same crap in the Viet Nam war. Remember. That's the one we lost. By the time we "wised up" we had known for years we were going to lose. Americans don't wise up, because here we are again. If we had wised up then the parents would have informed their children of the mess they had made. Not so. :thumbdown:


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Icelander]
    #4133887 - 05/04/05 05:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Even if they did, and only 15-20% of the people wanted the war.... The remaining 80-85% would just sit on their ass while we as a country go to war anyway, their isn't much the public can do to stop a war, its those in power that have to stop it; war can't really be stopped short of a revolution.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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InvisibleRavus
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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Annom]
    #4134794 - 05/04/05 08:54 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Annom said:









At least there's hope as the older generations die out. Maybe the younger generations won't believe that the Earth is 12,000 years old and we were all created from the incestuous relationship of two people, but I doubt it.

I bet the majority of Americans also think Jesus was a blond-haired, blue-eyed, light-skinned Nordic man. If Jesus tried to come by plane to tell people the truth, though, he'd probably be detained and strip-searched.


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Ravus]
    #4134802 - 05/04/05 08:57 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Right on! :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Ravus]
    #4135013 - 05/04/05 09:46 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4141022 - 05/06/05 06:00 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Psychoactive1984 said:
:wtf:?




Sorry about that. This AK47 herb from the Netherlands is a powerful stuff:stoned:.
What worries me most is stuff like this


"Evolution does not have a valid science foundation"

Wtf ! Evolution is a scientific theory. What those 54% elementary school teachers are thinking of, propose creationism as scientific substitute to kids ?

MAIA


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: MAIA]
    #4141068 - 05/06/05 06:32 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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"Evolution does not have a valid science foundation"

Wtf ! Evolution is a scientific theory. What those 54% elementary school teachers are thinking of, propose creationism as scientific substitute to kids ?




I think you just nailed the whole problem with "Evolution vs Creation in the classroom". Most teachers don't know what a theory is. If they did, there would be no argument about the evolution vs creation topic. Personally, I think they should use the two as an example to teach how conflicting theories work rather than picking one to teach as fact and ignoring the other.


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Seuss]
    #4142475 - 05/06/05 01:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know about parents in the US, but if creationism was to be taught on our schools, many parents would get really mad.
I was taught the evolutionist theory and in fact, i don't know of any public school teaching the creationist theory over here. We have religion classes as an option, but i guess most kids are not really into it.
Anyway i thought the US was an atheist state. I guess i was wrong ...

MAIA


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: Seuss]
    #4142682 - 05/06/05 02:26 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
Quote:

"Evolution does not have a valid science foundation"

Wtf ! Evolution is a scientific theory. What those 54% elementary school teachers are thinking of, propose creationism as scientific substitute to kids ?




I think you just nailed the whole problem with "Evolution vs Creation in the classroom". Most teachers don't know what a theory is. If they did, there would be no argument about the evolution vs creation topic. Personally, I think they should use the two as an example to teach how conflicting theories work rather than picking one to teach as fact and ignoring the other.



Science classes have no business teaching dogma. They need to teach science. Evolution is critical to the field of biology, so to undermine it with religious dogma would be a very bad idea. If you're going to teach creationism, teach it in a religious studies class.


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: MAIA]
    #4142693 - 05/06/05 02:28 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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MAIA said:
Anyway i thought the US was an atheist state.



Couldn't be further from the truth. Americans are not only getting more and more religous, but it's the more conservative, fundamentalist churches which are growing.


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: MAIA]
    #4142931 - 05/06/05 03:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
Its suggested all over the place that we're a Christian nation... although the constitution clearly suggests otherwise.

Although, with some of our current political practices, theirs still plenty of room to grow concerning separation of church and state.


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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Re: Americans are Idiots, Study Shows [Re: MAIA]
    #4142993 - 05/06/05 03:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

MAIA said:
Anyway i thought the US was an atheist state. I guess i was wrong ...

MAIA




woah...we're you stoned as well when you came up with this? if so, don't worry, I know to the full extent the effects of dutch AK47, and...WOW


Anyway, I remember when I was around 11 or 12, at that time my parents sent me to many different summer camps in the US but I was going to school in France, and I told them at one point; "I think american kids are stupider than french ones"...

and i still think its globally true, i feel the american mentality is less mature than the european one...i mean, just the differences in subjects of discussion between teens would be very interesting to study...like the difference in talking about nothing in particular and having a philosophical or political debate...

but who am i to judge anyway huh?


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