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InvisibleSwami
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10% of brain usage myth
    #413327 - 10/04/01 06:53 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Once and for all may we please put this often misquoted story to bed?

How many pistons fire at the same time in a V-8 engine? Answer: one; therefore the engine only develops 1/8 of it's potential. (An internal combustion engine does not achieve theoretical potential due to heat loss, but not because only one piston fires at a time.)

This is the same misguided logic used in the 10% myth. On average, it is unusual for more than 10% of the neurons in the brain to fire at one time. This was determined doing brainscans using an MRI, if I remember correctly. More firing does not equal superhuman cognitive ability, but chaos. If every transistor in your computer fired at the same time, your machine would not be supercharged, but locked up.

One more analogy. It is like saying a pianist playing a chord of 6 notes is not using his full potential of 88 notes. Hit all the keys at once and there is no pattern, no intelligence or information transferred.

Nuff said.



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #413336 - 10/04/01 07:15 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

The newest theories on consciosness I've been reading point to what's called "microtubules" that look like dynamically moving tree-like structures within neurons that form and un-form from a cytoskeleton state to a gel state at about 20 cyles per second according to a concept in quantum mechanics known as "quantum collapse".

Imagine the complexity of a tree. Now imagine that it's moving energy and information dynamically within 100,000,000,000 neurons each. Now imagine that each neuron is connected to up to 10,000 other neurons, some connections are eight feet long!

Marilyn Vos Savant, the highest I.Q. in the world (230) writes there are more interconnections in the human brain than particles in the known universe.

Now WTF? is 10% of THAT?

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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: oneoverzero]
    #413411 - 10/04/01 08:56 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Marilyn Vos Savant, the highest I.Q. in the world (230)
writes there are more interconnections in the human brain than particles in the known universe.


You've got something greatly mixed up here. A part can never be greater than the whole. Each connection is made up of millions of particles, so this makes absolutely no sense.



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #413412 - 10/04/01 09:02 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

? not that i want to stand up to this, but that is not possible as two human brains standing next to that one human brain he is talking about would already have more interconnections than that of a human brain.

:frown: .. what was i saying..? Time for a cigarette.


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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: CACA]
    #413419 - 10/04/01 09:23 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

o wait lol

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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #413800 - 10/04/01 05:26 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Since you know so much about the human brain, please tell me what the grey matter is for?



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: ]
    #413951 - 10/04/01 07:24 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Since you know so much about the human brain, please tell me what the grey matter is for?

Seems you are incapable of reading a post for what is actually said.

Nowhere did I claim extensive knowledge of the human brain, only awareness of that particular study and how it has been misinterpreted.





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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #414124 - 10/04/01 10:02 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not sure about the reptillians, greys, and mantis things, but I'm sure Swami is part troll.



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: ShroomFarmer]
    #414144 - 10/04/01 10:27 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

heh



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #414573 - 10/05/01 07:36 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Relax Champion! No need to get all testy. I respect your intelligence so respect mine too. This website is all about sharing information and not prentending you already know everything - which I don't. I need your smarts, I haven't figured it all out either. Maybe we could solve some riddles if we put our heads together instead of butting them together like rams competing to be the Alpha-Male. That's animalistic behavior.

Is a Troll an animal? I dunno... who cares.

Btw, Mrs. Savant (Married to Dr. Jarvic, inventor of the artificial heart - smart guy) wrote "inter-connections". That means ultra vast fields of "connections" that assemble and dissassemble at very high speeds. Over time it adds up. Do the math champ, it's beyond astronomical!

Take a heroic dose and try to explain what 10% of your favorite color is... heh.



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #414638 - 10/05/01 10:04 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Swami, we are obviously mostly stupid and delusional people here. Some of us are even dangerious to society. I am warning you again. RUN!!!!!! Leave this place before it is too late! Why does a well-educated materialistic person like you keeps coming to a place where mostly everyone can't tell right from wrong and real from imaginary?

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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: gribochek]
    #414709 - 10/05/01 11:57 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Swami, we are obviously mostly stupid and delusional people here. Some of us are even dangerious to society. I am warning you again. RUN!!!!!! Leave this place before it is too late! Why does a well-educated materialistic person like you keeps coming to a place where mostly everyone can't tell right from wrong and real from imaginary?

Ah, the shroomery spokesperson. You are warning me about what exactly? Not to point out flawed logic?

What does your post have to do with the topic? The 10% myth has been bantied about on dozens of posts and is incorrect. Do you have an opinion on this that you wish to add to the discussion?



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: oneoverzero]
    #414719 - 10/05/01 12:14 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Alpha-male? Where do you get this stuff? It is head-butting to say that the the part can never be greater than the whole? This fact stands alone without any support from me.

Neurons are made of billions of atoms, and at at best estimates have a maximum of some 10,000 inter-connections, usually much less. The mass of the universe and hence particulate matter is almost infinite compared to a 5 pound brain.

What math specifically am I supposed to be doing? Perhaps you need to extrapolate on your point as now you have added time to the equation, but am not sure what the equation is.



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #414743 - 10/05/01 12:45 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I think what he means, Swami, is that why would someone who obviously has no spirituality OR philosophy visit this board so often and tell people that their religous experiences, out of body experiences, etc., etc., are all their imagination and they are delusional? Because they are not proven by science?
Remember, this board is spirituality and philosophy, not let's prove ourselves to science.



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #414744 - 10/05/01 12:45 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

We use 100% of our brain but only 10% of its capacity....take care


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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: Swami]
    #414771 - 10/05/01 01:16 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i believe it is true, because for every one physical situation that can be understood, we can understand it in more than one fashion.

:frown: .. what was i saying..? Time for a cigarette.


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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: ]
    #414814 - 10/05/01 02:05 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Swami, I am pointing out to you that you keep coming to a place where everyone is obviously delusional (after all, according to science OOBs, entities, aliens, God, Chi, etc. are not possible). I want to ask you, exactly why you do that? What is the purpose of you coming here? It is as if a person just keeps coming to a mad-house just to argue with Napoleon that he is not Napoleon. Seems strange, right?

Oh, and I am in no way a Shroomery spokesperson, no do I _want_ you to leave, simply warning of imminent danger of becoming insane, just like us.

(Oh, Shroomism, please do not interpret me in the future. Thanks).

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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: gribochek]
    #414817 - 10/05/01 02:07 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

hah gribo im going to rape you

:frown: .. what was i saying..? Time for a cigarette.


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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: gribochek]
    #414841 - 10/05/01 02:23 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry, was not trying to interpret what you were saying. Those were my words.



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Re: 10% of brain usage myth [Re: ]
    #414850 - 10/05/01 02:32 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I think what he means...

Ah, the spokesman for the spokesman...

...Swami, is that why would someone who obviously has no spirituality OR philosophy...

Huh? You know absolutely nothing of my spirituality nor philosophy.

However, this IS a discussion board not a cheerleading board, meaning opposing points of view may be presented. Of course, believers are always afraid of different views.

This post HAS a topic, but you choose to neither affirm nor debate the point, disregarding the entire reason for a discussion.





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