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OfflineEgoTripping
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A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany
    #4119782 - 05/01/05 07:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

My roomates and I tripped yesterday off a 1/4 we managed to snag...it was all the guy had so it was under an 8th for each of us but its been a while since we had some and they looked amazing.

We decided to go the Tea route and share that way. We each had our glasses and we downed.

This trip descended with such quickness that I was tripping before I finished my cup. I went to my room to hit play on the music I had queued up for the trip. Some Aphex Twin, Alfie, Chris Bell, Beach Boys, Mozart, Flaming Lips, Nick Drake, etc..

The music was amazing of course...my ceiling turned into a rainbows matrix of colors. My beach posters became alive, fully. I sat up at this point and got caught into a fetal/meditative position; head bowed in a lotus. I never meditated on shrooms and I figured this was a good chance. I let go. I never felt my Ego fall away with such ease and care-free. I 'rose' above my body (but didn't actually see this, but felt it rather) and I sat in the balance. I was aware of the transience of this personality I have now...I saw it as my Tool, specifically configured and formed to do just as I was. It was to facilitate a way for my to express emotions in a metaphorical example; the Physical Life. I want to say that I was at the treshhold of life and death. I felt I could just go away and leave this world behind. But I knew I had to be here and I WANTED to be here. I knew I wasn't ready for the next stage because if I was I would be there now. I witnessed what it felt like to Die, to just continue on. Yet I was ME, more ME than I ever was. My energy would keep spiraling on and on, collecting more and more. There truly is no Death at all...the personality isn't left behind as much as its fully intergrated with the rest of ME. The veil is what keeps my personality 'at bay' so to speak. This moment is everything I am meant to be.

I came back to 'reality' and this is where things got a bit scary. Knowing that this world was something just to play in, I SAW how it was constructed...and quite loosly at that! As I stared at my walls and DVD case, my vision started shaking and becoming fluid. Things started to displace, move, shift and become unrecognizable in some cases.

My roomate comes into my room to check the music as well and sits and stares at the Milkdrop visualizations I had going on the screen. His face begins to pop out and in. He rolls his chair closer to the screen and I see the "impression" he leaves as he does this. My roomates ear lingered in the air while his head was in a different location. I realize that the "trails" we see aren't trails as much as they are permanent impressions in space/time. We percieve only the present with our 'veil' on but when the 3rd eye opens we can now see their past. The future impressions can be seen but I would imagine the veil would be removed completely to see this (death).

And this is the essence of the trip. This is why we become stuck motionless staring at the world around us. We see that it's all Now but we can focus this perception and forcefully create a 3D world where Time seems to 'pass'...because we do not see this World's transience. Everything at every moment is moving and changing, every moment. We do not see this happen just as someone does not see the backstage to a Play. We are meant to pretend just for a bit.

This is the significance of our Pupils dilating. The phrase 'open your eyes' never referred to eyelids. Your eyes dilate because a) it lets more light in which is really what the Material world is constructed from and b) it is a representation of what our Spirit does in this state. It expands and becomes aware of it's link to everything. This is why the Mushroom and other Psychedelics even exist; as reminders of our TRUE nature. And this is why they are deemed 'drugs' now. These were placed on Earth so that what exactly is happening now would not happen. They are the savior of Mankind and the reason for ALL Religious belief. There is no Jesus, Krishna, etc.. They were simply people who spread these wonderful gifts around and became Martrys for wanting to free the people from the grips of the Material world.

This is also the meaning behind 666/Satan. Satan is the Material world. If I'm not mistaken, Carbon is composed of 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons? 666/"The Devil" represents the potential detatchment (temporary) from its True source. This is required for us to learn how to properly manipulate the Spirit world; mental discpline. If we can control the pursuasions of this World and treat it with the respect it deserves, we move on. If we don't, we become victims of our own Minds (Hell). Heaven and Hell exist both in this Life and the Next, they are just two different extremities of the same thing.

I also realized as the world melted away that Material is completely subjective. This is a hard idea for me to word out though. Material world is composed of Light and Thought is just another form of Light. Under a trip, you then see Thought and Material as one in the same and thus Material becomes as fluid and dynamic as Thought is.

There were parts in the trip where I was outside and inside at the same time. It was as if my Body was a car driving at high speed and my Mind was a heavy boulder being dragged behind it. As I descended and the world started to solidify again, I felt relieved and grateful. This ability to forget and act out our emotional/spiritual desires and needs in a focused singular body is just the same as an Actor who puts on his Costume and steps 'into the mind' of his Character.

An Actor who is playing a Character has emotional goals he must reach to convey the story accurately. The story itself is nothing more than a series of situations meant to represent the fluctuation of emotions that exist between people (souls). This life is EXACTLY what we're doing here. It does not matter WHAT you're doing but rather WHY you're doing it. There is no Judgement because upon Death this Material world will disintergrate with the personalities we used. God only sees emotion. It does not matter if you're a stripper, porn star, Nun, Computer Programmer, Construction Worker or Dictator. All that matters is how we treated other people. There is no Sin there is no 'right' way to do things. All there is, is emotion. All we are doing in this Life is acting out metahporical representations of Emotion.

Through the rest of the day I felt VERY odd. Knowing how my awareness was made this world feel so concrete or dynamic, depending on my state of mind, made me feel like a Master of my own Domain. This life is a Game and it can be manipulated any way we want; negative included and required.

This trip taught me more than I expected as they all do. It was THE trip and I'm not really the kind that says that after each trip. This one really strengthed my link to the Spiritual but ironically, I feel more in touch with the Material than ever. Not in the sense that I am absorbed into the illusion but in the respect that I accept that is an illusion. It's liberating but it does not make me want to go hide in a cave and meditate daily to escape it...but rather it makes me want to dive head first into it and fractal out into it. It makes me want to enjoy this life so much because of it's absolute magnificence.

Turning outwards is the same as turning inwards.

If you lived in a world where there was only Knowing, the only logical step to take is forgetting and after that, remembering. Repeat, ad infinum.

Note: This is all personal opinion of course...I'm just as ignorant as you guys are to what 'truth' is. :mushroom2:


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: EgoTripping]
    #4120036 - 05/01/05 08:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

absolutely awesome, man. thank you.

I had that realization too, after a mind-shattering DMT experience, that there is so much to explore and learn from the other side; that there is something so strange, so mysterious, so incredible going on (and there is: I can see it in everyone's posts at the shroomery. On some level we each understand something is happening and that there is ... something ... beyond, within ... somewhere) that for us to give it our full attention and explore it as best and fully with the time given, we MUST remain outwardly coherent. We must accept the material world, even though it may seem an illusion, or a construct, it is imperative we strike a balance.

Too far to the left (materialism) and we become meaningless, shallow creatures, suffering an empty existence, enslaved to false ideals and materialism, never truly understanding that beyond the veil lies the source of all mystery.

Too far to the right and we become incoherent victims of our self-perpetuating delusions, swallowed by despair and helplessness, audience to a reality that feels like a television show, and we only delve deeper and deeper to escape it, and the deeper we go, we only further succeed in unmasking the unreality of our existence.

That's just my opinion anyway. Thanks again, really enjoyed your post.


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #4122098 - 05/02/05 04:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you too...it's good to know my thoughts are understood by others as well! :laugh:


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: EgoTripping]
    #4122408 - 05/02/05 10:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quite a beautiful report....!    Thanks for writing that all up and sharing....  :heartpump:  Sounds like that trip was spectacular....!
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EVERYTHING is made of "star stuff", making us "star stuff"....  And if you think about it, "star stuff" was meant to shine....!  :sun: :cool:


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: EgoTripping]
    #4124566 - 05/02/05 08:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Here EgoTripping is a wonderful little book available from Barnes & Nobel for $4.98. If you are not knowledgeable in the use of the Qabalistic Tree of Life as a map of consciousness, you should enjoy this book. It describes in almost identical language much that you described, including the "Veil" called Paroketh which separates the 'World of Personality' from the
'World of Soul,' which you entered into.

Your identification of the Devil with the element Carbon was most interesting, and while Qabalists do not agree with you here, several Gnostic schools of antiquity do! There is a conceptual overlap between Qabalists and Gnostics, but whereas Gnostics simply wish to flee the world (like Arhats in the East), Qabalists wish to 'repair' the world (like Buddhist Bodhisattvas).

BTW, in the Qabalistic model, both Emotion (Netzach) and Thought (Hod) comprise the 'World of Personality' - one on the Pillar of Severity, the other on the Pillar of Mercy, but you are definately onto something which I believe you will be thrilled to discover if you look into this little book. As a matter of fact, I have just now received an out-of-print book by the same author (The Living Qabalah: A Practical and Experimental Guide to Understanding the Tree of Life). Another book is on the way: The Complete Guide to the Kabbalah: How to Apply the Ancient Mysteries of the Kabbalah to Your Everyday Life. I have been reading Qabalistic (or, Kabbalistic) literature for 30 years, but I strongly recommend the illustrated book by Will Parfitt. Excellent introductory book, yet my Lady and I got much out of it (she's a beginner), and you will too!

Thanks for your report!

Peace.

-MtG


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4125279 - 05/02/05 10:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

'Material world is composed of Light and Thought is just another form of Light. Under a trip, you then see Thought and Material as one in the same and thus Material becomes as fluid and dynamic as Thought is.'

i've had a very similar type of experience, for me it was like, there's fact and value, and normally you can separate those two things in your head 'here's the hard reality of the situation, there's the meaning you give it' but sometimes it seems theyre both just an expression of meaning/oneself/this thing that transcends self but which is still thought
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damn this is an awesome fact: 'It describes in almost identical language much that you described, including the "Veil" called Paroketh which separates the 'World of Personality' from the
'World of Soul,' which you entered into.' here i was thinking that drugs put you on the edge of understanding but its amazing how there are things like that that that are old hat in some quarters
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"there is something so strange, so mysterious, so incredible going on (and there is: I can see it in everyone's posts at the shroomery. On some level we each understand something is happening and that there is ... something ... beyond, within ... somewhere)"

well said, couldnt agree more!


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: EgoTripping]
    #4126224 - 05/03/05 02:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

EgoTripping said:This is also the meaning behind 666/Satan. Satan is the Material world. If I'm not mistaken, Carbon is composed of 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons? 




awesome report, man.

just something to consider, however you please--

the number 666 was "the mark of the beast" before we as a species ever knew what an "atom" was.  :mushroom2:


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: starseed1066]
    #4126593 - 05/03/05 06:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

supposedly when you sin you give into the "pleasures of the flesh" flesh is basically made of carbon, that is pretty mind blowing stuff.


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4126654 - 05/03/05 07:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Markos I have recently dedicated a section of my personal library to you. :wink:

:thumbup:

edit: very nice trip report EgoTripping. Difficult to put into words. :mushroom2:


Edited by hobgoblin (05/03/05 08:24 AM)


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: EgoTripping]
    #4127095 - 05/03/05 11:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

EgoTripping said:
This is also the meaning behind 666/Satan. Satan is the Material world. If I'm not mistaken, Carbon is composed of 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons? 666/"The Devil" represents the potential detatchment (temporary) from its True source. This is required for us to learn how to properly manipulate the Spirit world; mental discpline. If we can control the pursuasions of this World and treat it with the respect it deserves, we move on. If we don't, we become victims of our own Minds (Hell). Heaven and Hell exist both in this Life and the Next, they are just two different extremities of the same thing.




Yeah. Shrooms are made of carbon if I'm not mistaken and so is a majority of everything else. But if we are using a tool to reach a realm or another plane, or dimension, or whatever. Which is somehow more obviously powerful than us, do you honestly think that we are going to get an honest outcome?

As I was also reading from www.enterprisemission.com that there is a moon called Iapetus that orbits around Saturn that they dubbed a false moon, artificial which by far I believe is also. If you read the article about it, the moon is "pointing" in all directions saying that "Carbon is very important in the universe".

Donno about you all but to me, such messages by a material world... I do not apply to give into such extremities when all obviousness is saying that "666 = Carbon = Satan = Evil = Negativeness = "Oh here is the truth LISTEN AND DO IT AGAIN TO REACH THE ULTIMATE TRUTH", IS ENOUGH FOR ME.

But that is just my opinion!


Edited by KairoAnnunaki (05/03/05 12:36 PM)


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: hobgoblin]
    #4127672 - 05/03/05 02:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

hobgoblin said:
edit: very nice trip report EgoTripping. Difficult to put into words. :mushroom2:




You have no idea.  :grin:


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: starseed1066]
    #4127675 - 05/03/05 02:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

starseed1066 said:
Quote:



the number 666 was "the mark of the beast" before we as a species ever knew what an "atom" was.  :mushroom2:




Exactly...quite prophetic, isn't it? :laugh:


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Re: A Spiritual Mushroom Trip Report/Personal Epiphany [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4127714 - 05/03/05 02:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
  Here EgoTripping is a wonderful little book available from Barnes & Nobel for $4.98. If you are not knowledgeable in the use of the Qabalistic Tree of Life as a map of consciousness, you should enjoy this book. It describes in almost identical language much that you described, including the "Veil" called Paroketh which separates the 'World of Personality' from the
'World of Soul,' which you entered into.

Your identification of the Devil with the element Carbon was most interesting, and while Qabalists do not agree with you here, several Gnostic schools of antiquity do! There is a conceptual overlap between Qabalists and Gnostics, but whereas Gnostics simply wish to flee the world (like Arhats in the East), Qabalists wish to 'repair' the world (like Buddhist Bodhisattvas).

BTW, in the Qabalistic model, both Emotion (Netzach) and Thought (Hod) comprise the 'World of Personality' - one on the Pillar of Severity, the other on the Pillar of Mercy, but you are definately onto something which I believe you will be thrilled to discover if you look into this little book. As a matter of fact, I have just now received an out-of-print book by the same author (The Living Qabalah: A Practical and Experimental Guide to Understanding the Tree of Life). Another book is on the way: The Complete Guide to the Kabbalah: How to Apply the Ancient Mysteries of the Kabbalah to Your Everyday Life. I have been reading Qabalistic (or, Kabbalistic) literature for 30 years, but I strongly recommend the illustrated book by Will Parfitt. Excellent introductory book, yet my Lady and I got much out of it (she's a beginner), and you will too!

Thanks for your report!

Peace.

-MtG




I've actually done some good amount of reading into the Zohar, Quaballah and Tree Of Life already.  I found it EXTREMELY informative. 

What continously freaks me out is I often will have these ideas and such swimming in my head and later read something that seeks to describe exactly what I was thinking of. 

The day of the trip, I was scanning a book I had on Yoga.  The section I flipped to the morning of the trip spoke of: "In it's essence the phenomenal world only exists in relation to the observer."

This is why I could see my world melting away and my roomates see their entirely own set of events.  But the Material itself never changes, just the perception...but the perception is everything and makes the Material what it is (light).  Physical is like this foam that sits on top of the sea...when you clear it, you see the Ocean underneath it.

You know, it's quite difficult to describe subjective-objectivity.  I suppose you have to experience it.  :mushroom2:


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