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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
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just to clear things up , i have a feew questions, 1: is the optimum water holding compacity of the seed is based on how mush it can absorb without bursting?
2: will the seed burst if soaked for too long ?

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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: planit]
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Can I use a lifeline Regis?

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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: planit]
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1: is the optimum water holding compacity of the seed is based on how mush it can absorb without bursting?

Depends on who you ask and what your doing with it. If fruiting directly off it, IMO, yes. If spawning, pretty much, but maybe a little bit drier, and quite a bit drier is fine. Colonization is often just fine with a wide range of water...but when you fruit it, it can be to dry.

2: will the seed burst if soaked for too long ?

Not in water at room temp., but it will germinate.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

Edited by scatmanrav (04/09/05 12:19 AM)

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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: scatmanrav]
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Woops :doh:

-Gnostic


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Soaking wbs - The Final Answer by Agar
50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss.

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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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im runnin a 22 quart pressure cooker its like 20 years old with a weight. It take the bastad like 30 mins to get to pressure. When i do wbs i notice at least a 30 % bursted seed. anytips?

tons of bursted seeds arent good right?


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: scarymidgets]
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Sounds like your WBS may be a bit to WET, before you start. 1 or 2% bursted WBS isn't much of a problem, more than that becomes a bigger problem, the higher the percentage goes.

Busted seed creates sort of a starchy sludge, that is prone to bacterial contamination, slow colonization & makes the jars hard to shake (sludge is sticky).

You might try pre/heating your PC, then add the jars & PC lid W/weight so it builds pressure quicker. Other than that, I don't really know what to tell you.


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: agar]
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Cant hurt to try! I have this feelin that you are dead on. thanks for your tips ill post back here once i throw some more jars together.

the preheat thing was some common sense shit cant belive i didnt think of that~


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: scarymidgets]
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First time doing WBS.. i think just a few have bursted.. but I'm looking forward to this working!!! Thank you so much for the tips on how to soak the WBS correctly. I did an experimental first batch .. but didn't know exactly if i had done it correctly. Next time i'll be more sure (with the 9 remaining jars i intend to do) + tenn stud 50/50!

What an experiment!

Thanks
Sammy


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: Sammy]
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Preheating  worked like a  charm  anybody  with a  22  quart 20 year old PC  having problems  !  PREHEAT! 

thanks again agar :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: scarymidgets]
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Here are the results of following this meathod of soaking:



and another jar



Thanks mang

Sam


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: Sammy]
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You did well - SAMMY  :thumbup:



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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: agar]
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agar said:
The function of soaking any grain, is to allow it to absorb it’s maximum natural capacity of moisture, without germinating the seed...



agar said:
Besides hydration, SOAKING does germinate endospores. Then, PC'ing kills the bastards.


hu? so do you want to germinate or not?

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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: FirstAvailable]
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You want to germinate endospores, but not the seed. in other words, you dont want the seed to sprout when you soak


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: FirstAvailable]
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You don't want the seed/grain to germinate (as in sprout).

You do however want the ENDOSPORES inside the seed/grain to germinate.

en?do?spore (nd-sp?r)
n.
1. A small spore formed within the vegetative cells of some bacteria.
2. A fungus spore borne within a cell or within the tubular end of a sporophore.

In that way, PC sterilization has a much better chance of killing those nasty b*stards.


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: agar]
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:rotfl:

I think I need a

dic?tio?nary

a reference book containing words usually alphabetically arranged along with information about their forms, pronunciations, functions, etymologies, meanings, and syntactical and idiomatic uses
2 : a reference book listing alphabetically terms or names important to a particular subject or activity along with discussion of their meanings and applications
3 : a reference book giving for words of one language equivalents in another
4 : a list (as of items of data or words) stored in a computer for reference (as for information retrieval or word processing)

:smirk:

:thumbup:

Still loving this post Agar.

-Gnostic


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For the sake of those seeking knowledge.
I've provided some in my signature.
Double Tek Pictorial
Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Soaking wbs - The Final Answer by Agar
50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss.

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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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how do I tell when the endospores have germed?

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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: FirstAvailable]
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FirstAvailable said: how do I tell when the endospores have germed?


You will hear them imitating ELVIS singing "love me tender". (JOKE).

You cannot tell, but the soak usualy does it. As room temp, moisture & nutriants all combined is the germinating trigger - for them.


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: agar]
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Ok sorry to dig up an old thread, but, basically your saying there is no reason to simmer at all am I right? Just soak it for a night?


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: nuk1m]
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nuk1m said:
Ok sorry to dig up an old thread, but, basically your saying there is no reason to simmer at all am I right? Just soak it for a night?


About a 24 to 28 hour soak in 68/72F does it for me.
You want to rinse with hot water & drain, before they start to SPROUT.
Simple as that.


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Re: SOAKING WBS - GRAINS & TIMES - FINAL ANSWER [Re: agar]
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A good Tek that has an illustration of the effects on the water of endospore germination is "From Syringe To Print With Rye Tek"

I am about to try grain also, and as my first. But I have a good feeling about grain over PF and in regards to the sacred mushy I listen to what I feel.


Loving this crowd more and more.

Darken
*smiles*


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