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OfflineLucid420
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Increasing the potency of P. Cubensis: A Dream
    #393520 - 09/13/01 04:17 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

This is in response to the article in the grow/find - growing p. cubensis section of shroomery.com:
Does anyone out there know where to acuire Desmanthus Illinoesis rootbark? I am very interested in trying this method out but I would even know where to start to look for this item.


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Re: Increasing the potency of P. Cubensis: A Dream [Re: Lucid420]
    #394210 - 09/14/01 10:54 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

It's not listed on http://www.gnosticgarden.com , but send those guys an email and ask them.

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Re: Increasing the potency of P. Cubensis: A Dream [Re: Lucid420]
    #394215 - 09/14/01 11:06 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly I seriously doubt that method worked.

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Re: Increasing the potency of P. Cubensis: A Dream [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #394385 - 09/14/01 02:49 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

What makes you say that?


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Re: Increasing the potency of P. Cubensis: A Dream [Re: Lucid420]
    #394826 - 09/15/01 12:41 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Its been shown that DMT is very poorly absorbed by cubensis mycelium, and a methanol extraction would not yeild very high, as well as Desmanthus does not contain a considerable amount of DMT. The potency increase would be so minor that it would be hard to notice with a bioassay. He probably just grew a more potent strain and assumed his methods had succeeded. If he had performed a much broader experiment using cloned mycelium in a variety of different substrates as well as the desmanthus added one and the addition was still significantly more potent, then I would be more inclined to believe it.

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Re: Increasing the potency of P. Cubensis: A Dream [Re: Lucid420]
    #398608 - 09/19/01 09:44 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Check out http://www.herbal-shaman.com . They carry Desmanthus Illinoensis root in 30g "sampler" bags. *MY FRIEND* picked up 90g himself and is eager to see if the method involving infusion of vermiculite makes a difference. I have my own doubts about whether or how well this method will work, but *MY FRIEND* is definitely going to give it a go. Keep us posted!

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Re: Increasing the potency of P. Cubensis: A Dream [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #399153 - 09/20/01 01:15 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

"methanol extraction would not yeild very high, as well as Desmanthus does not contain a considerable amount of DMT"

A methanol extraction would not yeild any dmt. A, acid would be necessary, methonal works fine for psil because the 4ho and 4po are so damn polar.

Vinegar would work fine.


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