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fromga2wa
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: fromga2wa]
#14300851 - 04/16/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: fromga2wa]
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: fromga2wa]
#14300973 - 04/16/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#14344364 - 04/24/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I havent read any of the replies so I dont know if its been answered yet or not. The answer is absolutely its possible. Its as simple as you stated op, isolate a strain that produces no alkaloids. Psilocybe cubensis is not illegal. Psilocybin is. Its dumb but it would technically make non-psilocybin containing cubensis mushrooms legal. All psilocybe-containing mushrooms are not banned by species, but only if they contain psilocybin.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: BrownCow]
#14375928 - 04/30/11 02:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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BrownCow said: I havent read any of the replies so I dont know if its been answered yet or not. The answer is absolutely its possible. Its as simple as you stated op, isolate a strain that produces no alkaloids. Psilocybe cubensis is not illegal. Psilocybin is. Its dumb but it would technically make non-psilocybin containing cubensis mushrooms legal. All psilocybe-containing mushrooms are not banned by species, but only if they contain psilocybin.
good luck.
its not going to be as easy as you are making it.
you have to isolate at random. and test EVERY SINGLE isolation you ever make.
until you find one with "less" and then keep tryin to whittle it down
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: k00laid]
#14384412 - 05/01/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is a 7 year old thread. 
Just to have the final word though - trying to remove Psilocin would be a ridiculous waste of time, and given the US's current methodology of prosecuting, if they found any traces of actives using chromatography they would still throw you in jail. Even legal hemp is still "active" and they've been working on that for years, chromatography has no problems detecting THC in Hemp.
So the obvious answer is to grow something else - Stropharia semiglobata. 
It looks like Cubensis, grows on dung in the same conditions as Cubensis, and would probably be cultivated with a similar ease as Cubensis.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: Feelers]
#14426492 - 05/09/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seems to me if you found/made a mutant strain which expresses a disfunctional trypt decarboxylase and/or indole n-methyltransferase then you'd have your legal strain.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: fromga2wa]
#14428136 - 05/10/11 02:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fromga2wa said: Bump
What a terribly stupid necro of a completely worthless thread.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: German Kahuna]
#14428200 - 05/10/11 03:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You've got the wrong idea, man. If you have the equipment to test for the alkaloids, you should be able to think of one much more exciting project than trying to reduce psilocybin levels! Moreover, the process of reducing and augmenting the levels of alkaloids is just as illegal until the psilocin/psilocybin is completely absent, and at that point, you'd have a mushroom that doesn't taste very good and doesn't have psychoactive effects (in other words, a mushroom that is of no use to humans).
If you're going to practice illegal mycology, at least be productive about it.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: Fnappy J]
#14428348 - 05/10/11 05:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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And what's the bloody fucking point? I still don't get it. Do you drink a lot of alcohol free single malt whiskey? If you want to cultivate psilocybin/psilocin free mushrooms grow some Agaricus or wine caps or, or, or, and, and, and. This is seriously one of the most retarded ideas I've seen on these boards so far and definitely not worth necroing a 7+ year old thread over.
And one more thing, "fromga2wa": you keep bumping this shit at minute frequency one more time and you'll get banned for good this time. Troll.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: German Kahuna]
#14429004 - 05/10/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well at least I laughed my ass off when I read the two above posts. Seriously; those were fucking great.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: Feelers]
#14431351 - 05/10/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes this does seem dumb, but its still worth a shot if you are a legislation changing revolutionary. I remember when i was in school we would have ill-informed idiots come talk to us about "drugs" and the most dangerous "drug" was marijuana, but "marijuana is just a plant, the drug in it is called THC kids" and it leads to crack/herion/buttsex. But what this douche didnt realize was there are many cannabinoids in cannabis that all form together to create a unique effect. And ive heard of a CC in spain that grows cannbis with no thc but insanely high levels of CBD and its supposed to be a differnt effect but still powerful. So i am open to the idea that there are other akaloids in mushrooms beside the main 2 that may cause some sort of effect.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: German Kahuna]
#14434789 - 05/11/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said: And what's the bloody fucking point? I still don't get it. Do you drink a lot of alcohol free single malt whiskey? If you want to cultivate psilocybin/psilocin free mushrooms grow some Agaricus or wine caps or, or, or, and, and, and. This is seriously one of the most retarded ideas I've seen on these boards so far and definitely not worth necroing a 7+ year old thread over.
And one more thing, "fromga2wa": you keep bumping this shit at minute frequency one more time and you'll get banned for good this time. Troll.
You just need to eat some b00m3rZ and open your mind, bro.
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: German Kahuna]
#14453217 - 05/14/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said: And what's the bloody fucking point? I still don't get it. Do you drink a lot of alcohol free single malt whiskey? If you want to cultivate psilocybin/psilocin free mushrooms grow some Agaricus or wine caps or, or, or, and, and, and. This is seriously one of the most retarded ideas I've seen on these boards so far and definitely not worth necroing a 7+ year old thread over.
And one more thing, "fromga2wa": you keep bumping this shit at minute frequency one more time and you'll get banned for good this time. Troll.
http://www.shroomery.org/8757/Why-do-different-species-and-strains-of-mushrooms-have-different-highs
cmon man u got a trusted cultivator tag
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Re: A legal cultivar of cubensis possible? [Re: sporesmores420]
#14453533 - 05/14/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The point was to produce an isolate that produced no illegal substances, but which produced spores that would produce.
DUH.
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