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 ardkore92
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 complete loss of potency v2 
#1059228 - 11/17/02 01:07 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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anyway down to the prob. i get mad fluses and the first 2 or so are great. then i still get very healthy specimens picked at the right time dried in all kinds of diff ways. the last like 1 or 2 batches w/ great big ones still but are completely impotent. i mean a monkey i know have eaten eight and quarter to one person and nothing
my monkey even tried it and it's true.
i don't know what wrong.
this happens with all diff strains.
thai lipa yai (sp),
treasure coast,
and now even the PFs
(the ones I did were from the PF strain that had a problem (see fanaticus.com) I got all these cept for PF from ralphster44's but they all worked for awhile quite well, and their spores are really good, i know that.
PLEASE HELP!
please ...
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 Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: ardkore92]
#1061139 - 11/18/02 12:29 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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what are you using as substrate
Edited by mechmono (11/18/02 12:30 AM)
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: ardkore92]
#1061191 - 11/18/02 12:52 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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are you eating on consecutive days of what?
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: ardkore92]
#1061223 - 11/18/02 01:13 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why don't you reply to your last thread? You didn't even answer the other peoples questions and give enough information. I keep reading that there is potency loss, but so insignificant it doesn't really make a difference. And I'll just re-ask what someone asked in your last thread, how often do you eat the mushrooms, because if you eat them everyday, after a few weeks you could eat 20 grams and not trip. You probably built up resistance. You going to respond this time?
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: daussaulit]
#1061593 - 11/18/02 04:11 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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he's a noob, and probably lost his password or forgot his name.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: Shaw]
#1061619 - 11/18/02 04:19 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol
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ardkore92
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: ]
#1061685 - 11/18/02 05:03 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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pf formuala 1/2 pint brf jars cased in wet vermic to keep contams out. forgot to mention.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: canid]
#1061689 - 11/18/02 05:05 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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no, it's diff FLUSHES over the space of about 1.5 - 2 mo (fruiting period brf pf cakes cased w/ wet vermic) diff monkey eating them all the time. the first flush is strongest and it gets weaker from the 2 or 3rd one on.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: Shaw]
#1061691 - 11/18/02 05:06 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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because the replies in the last post were rude and if you bother to read it's not about one monkey eating them all the time its about diff FLUSHES
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: Shaw]
#1061693 - 11/18/02 05:07 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, a lot of assholes on this forum apparently
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: ardkore92]
#1061725 - 11/18/02 05:37 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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what's up your ass? And one post would have been sufficient.
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Edited by Shaw (11/18/02 05:39 AM)
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: Shaw]
#1061768 - 11/18/02 06:38 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes shaw but one post is one post
that won`t up his post count
but to add to shaw's post, don`t be a freaking post whore, rather work for your posts.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: ardkore92]
#1062206 - 11/18/02 12:38 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd be careful calling people assholes who are here to help you. You may not like some things people have to say, but where else are you going to go for help?
So let me see if I got this right. Some baboon is growing PF cakes cased in vermiculite. The baboon cultivator is giving these fruits to several different monkies. Sometimes the monkies get off good, and sometimes they don't. When they don't, they complain to the Babboon. The babboon sees a trend and thinks that the shrooms are less potent on later flushes?
Does that sum it up? If so, there is a big problem with that. Potency is subjective. different people, different states of mind, everything varries. I'm a lot more inclined to chalk weak potency up to variables in the monkey body rather than in the shroom.
Assuming you are drying and storing them right. Sometimes (not all the time) later flushes produce more psilocin than cybin. this means you have to be more careful in how you dry and store. I don't think that's it though.
I think monkies are poor judges of potency.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: mycofile]
#1062291 - 11/18/02 01:07 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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i most definately concur.
Its all about suggestion. The genetics of the mushrooms are the same no matter what flush it is. So they are going to produce the same ammount of psilocybe's no matter what, despite what some people will say.
Do this monkey-Flush experiment a few more times and you'll see. Tell people the (last flushes) mushies are the bomb, and see what results you get. Ample doses needed of corse.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: ardkore92]
#1062309 - 11/18/02 01:16 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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In reply to:
because the replies in the last post were rude
frankly, after reading the last thread i don't think anybody was being verry rude to you. when you ask people for help the then respond top their attempt using CAPITAL LETTERS (a commonly accepted sign of hostility on the internet) people start to loose their desire to help.
In reply to:
and if you bother to read it's not about one monkey eating them all the time its about diff FLUSHES
i read your post more than once before i understood what you where trying to say. i get the impression that your english is not verry good. while this shouldn't be held against you, it does make efficient comunication difficult.
my overall advice is to take a chill pill, ignore those who actualy are being rude, and listen to those who have the patience to keep trying to help you.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: canid]
#1062325 - 11/18/02 01:21 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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A little basic info on etiquette 
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Actually collector, potency and ratios of 'bin to 'cin do varry a good bit from flush to flush. The data is hard and is verified by real assays, not subjective bioassays.
That being said though, the recorded range of variation would not explain what he's seeing.
I've eaten shrooms off of flushes 1-7 of about 20+ strains of cubensis. I've had hard trips and soft trips, but I've never been able to find what I would call a weak shroom. Although many people who ate those same shrooms may disagree, I think they underestimate the subjective nature of the world of psychedlia.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: mycofile]
#1064208 - 11/18/02 11:15 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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don't be rude. its not real nice.
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: dets]
#1064464 - 11/19/02 12:47 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey ardcore I promise not to be rude so could you awnser me this, How much water do you use in your 100% verm jars?
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Re: complete loss of potency v2 [Re: ardkore92]
#1083025 - 11/25/02 12:38 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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i'm a dumb newb, but i've had the exact same problem.
sure seems like its just one of those things no one knows the answer to.
i do the same thing, brf cased with vermiculite.
except so far, i've gotten 2 worthless flushes and NO good ones with 3 differnt strains.
the most anyone has tooken is 8 dry grams and it was about a level 2 trip. and that was with rue
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