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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: Prosgeopax]
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Actually, it was because the entire supply from europe was contaminated and it is not made in the US because there is not much money in it. If we knew that all the vaccine would be trashed, you can damn well bet that flu shot production plants would have been popping up like crazy here. This is not something likely to happen again.

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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: Prosgeopax]
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That's why Canadians are suckers, they're paying for Americans' medicine


You call us suckers...we call it compassion.


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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: Rono]
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Whatever makes you feel happy about being taken for a ride...


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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: Prosgeopax]
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Americans spending their money while here to get a free flu shot...and we're the ones being taken?...lol


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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: Rono]
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Lie to yourself all you want, the flu shots may be free to the Americans, but they are not free to Canadian taxpayers. It is a reality of life that anything 'free' that does not come directly from nature requires the efforts of someone to pay for it. Though the cost may be hidden and not always directly born by the recipients, rest assured that someone IS paying for it. The big lie of socialism is that things can be had for free from the government. If this were so, there would be no need for taxes nor would there be any legal manipulation of the money supply to transfer wealth from the productive segments of society to those who live off of them.


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Money doesn't grow on trees, but deficits do grow under Bushes.

You can accept, reject, or examine and test any new idea that comes to you. The wise man chooses the third way.
- Tom Willhite

Disclaimer: I reserve the right to change my opinions should I become aware of additional facts, the falsification of information or different perspectives. Articles written by others which I post may not necessarily reflect my opinions in part or in whole, my opinions may be in direct opposition, the topic may be one on which I have yet to formulate an opinion or have doubts about, an article may be posted solely with the intent to stimulate discussion or contemplation.

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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: Silversoul]
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More Canadians immigrate to the USA compared to the number of USAians immigrating to Canada.


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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: deafpanda]
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deafpanda said:The more I think about politics, the less I believe that there is any system that is both workable and morally justifiable.


Just goes to show how unnecessary systems are!


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Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP


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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: rogue_pixie]
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Well, I half agree with you. The world would be plunged into total chaos if we did away with political systems, but it may be for the long-term good. I suppose there's no way we'll know, at the moment.

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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: deafpanda]
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The system wouldn't just vanish straight away , unless we went around bombing every countries government...strange thought...Anyway, it'd be a gradual process. We know that none of the systems we have, or have ever had, work, I'd say that's pretty good evidence.


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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: deafpanda]
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deafpanda said:
Good points.

I don't think people would pay anywhere near as much voluntarily as they do now in taxes.

I think that society has a duty to protect those incapable of protecting themselves.

I also think that people should not be forced to do so.

However, these two beliefs are incompatible given people's greed.

The more I think about politics, the less I believe that there is any system that is both workable and morally justifiable.


That's a great post.
I myself have given up on trying to find a clean moral political system. Libertarianism comes the closest, but still falls short.
So I've come to believe that a government just needs to do what will work best for their particularly nation and its populace. Sometimes that means pure capitalism. Sometimes that means socialism. Sometimes that means being somewhere in the middle. I think as long as a nation has a strong constitution and has free elections, along with basic civil liberties, it can have the potential to be very successful.


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Re: Rants and Ramblings on Capitalism and Socialism [Re: Gijith]
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What happens if you elect a party and relalise afterward it was a mistake because everything they promised turned out to be a lie, and you have to live with it for the next several years of your life?

What if the choice of parties is so small, and so similiar, there are none that you agree with for you to make a vote?

What if the political parties have so much power and influence over people that it is impossible for them to ever dare to imagine a world without them?

What good does your government do that we can't do?


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Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP


Edited by rogue_pixie (02/28/05 12:32 PM)

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