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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Zekebomb]
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Ok, then If I missed your point, explain to me, If you don't want to take more space here, send me a private message


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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I have no fear of actual death....    I do fear a painful death....
(EDIT:  I don't actually "fear" a painfull death, I just hope not to have one....)

And I am not sure what my beliefs in spirituallity are, so my answer is not based on that....   

It is kinda~ like asking if one is afraid that the sun will rise tomorrow....    Sure, ther might be an outside chance that it won't, but most likely it is just a matter of time....  To bad a "natural" death is not as timely and consistant as to be able to "plan" for it....

:smile:


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I'll be your midnight French Fry....  :naughty:

"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."

>^;;^<

Edited by PhanTomCat (02/04/05 04:48 PM)

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Zekebomb]
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Zekebomb said:
In this case, you have asked us to only use part of our beliefs to answer your question. I was pointing out how impossible that is. 



Tell that to the moderators. Often times posts will naturally move into other areas that, while not intended by the original post, are sparked by that original post. Creating a rule that demands that we put limits like this on where the thread can evolve is not really conducive to the free interchange of ideas and perspective.

This is evidenced in this very thread. I feel that what I just typed contains a perspective worth expressing, and it fits in with the flow of the thread quite naturally, relative to the way this thread has mutated and grown. The thread itself is not in any way derailed, in fact, later in this reply I will address the main, proposed topic of this thread, as to include my perspective on it. The less limitations placed on expression and conversation equates into increased spiritual development for all. :laugh:

Personally, I do not feel anxiety over death, just as I do not feel anxiety when I reflect on the fact that my heart will likely continue to beat in the next moment. I do not inflict the experience of negative, seperating emotions on myself just because a natural occurence will occur. :lol:

I'm far too immersed in this present moment and this overwhelming experience right here to consider seperating myself from this heightened state of awareness, lowering my level of consciousness by letting my mind punish itself in an ignorant effort to prevent something that cannot be prevented. To seperate oneself from the moment for any reason is insanity. :smirk:

I've already came to the full realization that I will die, and it does not effect me in any negative way. Essentially, "So what?". I already know that the experience of this individual, seperate perspective, distinct from all other facets of the universe, is an illusion that is unnecessary, and I'm well on my way to breaking that illusion, so the fear of that individual perspective one day disappearing does not exist. Therefore, in a sense, I actively seek death (not physical death, obviously) :wink: I do not upset myself emotionally when it rains, so I do not see why I should upset myself emotionally when any other naturally unfolding phenomenon carries out its unfolding.  :mushroom2:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Afraid of death? I'm not sure I even believe in it. Long after you individually are gone, there will be millions of minds out there working through pretty much the same fears and joys that you knew; folks with the same observer status as yourself. They are, to a large degree, identical with yourself.

We fear death because nature has put a bug up our ass -- a set of instincts that instruct us to preserve our own lives at all costs and hoard resources until the tasks of reproduction and the raising of the next generation are complete.

Responding to these instincts, we dance on the end of a very old string tied deeply into our reptilian brains. One day we will realize that the developement of the conscious mind has rendered these strings obsolete. Then we'll seek rational reasons for existing; rather than relying on knee-jerk responses to primal fears.


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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Death is only like getting into the pool. Everyone is afraid of it, but once they're in, they're practically floating.


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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: zahudulallah]
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Not afraid of the dying but instead the fucking MOFO gravity that grabs me each time when I die. But, after all, that is like a cool rollercoaster. At your home enviroment. No tickets or anything needed!

When I REALLY die, Im hoping for getting skyrocketed though.


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- When the time stops, evil ones will be pointed out for all to see.

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: repemon]
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i don't fear nor await it

it will happen and there will be no me to consider resisting

i really don't see the big deal

we are not the same person in the past or future, and die each moment

sleep is an eternal death that we somehow are born out of

and death itself, whether absolute or not, is no different

as we are all one being, and therefore

our experiences are sequentially experinced by the sum of our being

and as a whole, we are immortal :smile:


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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: deff]
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deff said:
i don't fear nor await it

it will happen and there will be no me to consider resisting

i really don't see the big deal

we are not the same person in the past or future, and die each moment

sleep is an eternal death that we somehow are born out of

and death itself, whether absolute or not, is no different

as we are all one being, and therefore

our experiences are sequentially experinced by the sum of our being

and as a whole, we are immortal :smile:



Exactly :smile:


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- When the time stops, evil ones will be pointed out for all to see.

Edited by repemon (02/06/05 09:20 AM)

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: repemon]
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Why should anyone be afraid of death anymore then they are afraid of life?

-No


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Psychoactive1984]
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Because people are taught to avoid it at all cause from their earliest days. In time it is conditioned to be the worst possible thing in life. And it represents change, and people are afraid of it.
It allso represents the end of a conscious person, no memory no experiences, no consciousness, just rotting flesh. That's why people are afraid of it


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: OldWoodSpecter] * 1
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I am still barely getting over all the death that has already happenned.
my own is a pretty small thing in comparison.


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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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I don't fear death; I respect it. I have had two close brushes with death where I knew at the time I could die. You never really know how you will react until you are in that situation. It's all academic until then. For me the realization brought a profound feeling of peace and the sense that time had slowed.

So no, I don't fear death. I will welcome it when it comes without wishing for it.


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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Jellric]
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I look forward to death, but I enjoy mortality while it is here. I do not wish to lose any moment of mortality. Even the painful experiences should be cherished. Those are the ones that help us to grow, if we choose to learn from them. Death is just a doorway into another phase of our eternal progression.

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Supernova]
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hmmm...I'm not really afraid of death because i know its a natural part of life and denying death would be the same as denying life...I'm more afraid of being forgotten AFTER death...everyone bull shit's you with the answer "ohh ill remember you forever" or "ill never forget you"...i just wish there was a way i could know how long a person would remember me after i die...lol

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Supernova]
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Not that I'm suicidal or anything, but I can't wait for my death. I will finally leave this body whether there is or isn't an afterlife (either way I'm not occupying(sp?) a human form). Death is the point of life, if it wasn't, then why would it exist?
Sort of like how enlightenment is (give or take) the goal of all religions. Death is the final frontier, I want to explore it. I guess I'm just curious. But I'm ready to die whenever.
I feel a little sorrow for the loved ones I will leave behind, but that won't matter to me after I'm dead anyhow, I suppose.
But right now I am ALIVE, so that's what I will focus on.
One step at a time, right?
And death is just one of the next steps everyone has to take.


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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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I don't spend my time worrying about death, but I do try to avoid dying.


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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Supernova]
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Death is just a doorway into another phase of our eternal progression.

not allowed?

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Zekebomb]
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Hell yes. I spend every waking moment in absolute quaking terror of my death. At night I dream of being buried alive and awaken feeling suffocated, and in a blind panic, at least 5 time a night. That is, when I do sleep. I fear that when I go to sleep I may never awaken, so sleep only takes me when I am too exhausted to remain concious. I quit leaving the confines of my small apartment years ago. Outside is the unknown. I could meet my death at any turn. I could be hit by a car, or exploded in a building during a terrorist attack. Don't tell me that can't happen...I saw it on TV when the World Trade Center collapsed. That was when I had a TV. I won't answer the door. Who knows what lunatic might show up at my door...drug crazed...with a gun or knife. Don't try to call as I disconnected the phone. Try as you might, but I won't let your trickery lure me into the open on the pretense of "having lunch" or "taking in a movie"...yeah...right. I got rid of the silverware and plates just the other day. I realized that these things were potential weapons that an invader might use to snuff out my life. What I eat...when I do eat...is prepackaged prepared food the delivery boy leaves at the door...I think someone has been trying to poison me with a slow acting poison, so I eat as little as possible...only enough to insure against starvation. Once a week I dart into the hallway at midnight, briefly in mortal terror, to grab the meager bag of groceries. I drink water from the toilet tank mostly (I read that it was a sure source of unpolluted water in emergencies) because to wander into my unlighted kitchen is too big of a risk...I could fall and seriously injure myself in the dark. As for lights...well don't get me started on the hazards of electricity. Locked in my little bedroom, with a chair under the door, I am safe....please don't kill me.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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That does it, Hue.

You're a dead man!


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Re: Are you afraid of death? [Re: Jellric]
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death, is afraid, of you. 
:rockets:

HA ha haha ha


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Edited by Gomp (02/06/05 10:22 PM)

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