Home | Community | Message Board


Mycohaus
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: ½ Pint Jars, Coir, Mycobags, Pressure Cooker, Rye Grain, Vermiculite, Wild Bird Seed

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
OfflineJon
Registered: 06/28/03
Posts: 961
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
I got poo and I dont know what to do
    #3084232 - 09/02/04 08:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I recently got some rye, dehydrated poo (smells like a petstore), and a brick of coir. I really dont know where to start and it is my first time using manure. Can anybody direct me to some good pictorials or teks and watnot?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineshirley knott
not my real name
 User Gallery
Registered: 11/11/02
Posts: 9,103
Loc: London
Last seen: 10 months, 3 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Jon]
    #3084257 - 09/02/04 08:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

are those your only ingredients? can you get hold of straw?


--------------------
buh


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineplanit
natural
Registered: 01/30/04
Posts: 165
Loc: hilly glacier washout
Last seen: 11 years, 3 months
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Jon]
    #3084270 - 09/02/04 08:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

read the faq dammit ,theres a reason they exist , to start youl need jars and a pressure cooker and some kinda filter material. and a spore syringe and glove box(probably)


Edited by planit (09/02/04 09:00 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineshirley knott
not my real name
 User Gallery
Registered: 11/11/02
Posts: 9,103
Loc: London
Last seen: 10 months, 3 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: planit]
    #3084275 - 09/02/04 09:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

woah, be cool, daddio  :cool:


--------------------
buh


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineIamthewalrus
every evening Idied and everynight I wasreborn
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/24/04
Posts: 3,744
Loc: Ontario
Last seen: 8 years, 1 month
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Jon]
    #3084285 - 09/02/04 09:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

what type of poo? if its horse poo you won't need any straw

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23534

thats a good tek for a beginner.....tho if your using horse poo you won't need the straw.....the reason for straw with cow poo is it makes it easier for the mycelium to get through it....but horse poo has a texture thast more "airy" so you the mycelium can get through it np without the aid of straw


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineshirley knott
not my real name
 User Gallery
Registered: 11/11/02
Posts: 9,103
Loc: London
Last seen: 10 months, 3 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Jon]
    #3084296 - 09/02/04 09:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

have you grown before?


--------------------
buh


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineCyber
Ash
Male User Gallery Arcade Champion: Yeti Sports

Registered: 06/14/04
Posts: 1,476
Loc: Dearborn Michigan
Last seen: 6 months, 27 days
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Jon]
    #3084345 - 09/02/04 09:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Jon said:
I recently got some rye, dehydrated poo (smells like a petstore), and a brick of coir. I really don't know where to start and it is my first time using manure. Can anybody direct me to some good pictorials or teks and watnot?




I have been playing with poo for a little while ( a dozen casings or so)

Things I have noticed

#1) poo out preforms str8 WBS casings!

#2) you need to cut the poo with something. To make it essayer for the myc to colonize.

#3) different casing materials turn out different.

So you can hit the FAQ's on here and learn a lot more than what I am about to say.

Cutting the Poo

First off I have yet to get any straw. I have however tried several things and all seem to work.

Substrates to spawn to:

S1) 100% Cow poo : of 3 tries all 3 took forever to colonize (REAL SLOW) and all 3 contaminated before they colonized to 100%

S2) 50% cow poo and 50% vermiculite : It worked real good. I got good flushed and some strong cubies.

S3) 50% Cow Poo, 25% Vermiculite, 25% coco-coir : This seems to work real well. They have not fruited yet but they colonized VARY fast!

S4) 50% Cow Poo, 40% Coco-Coir, 10% hay : This one was spawned 3 days ago and is at 90% colonization. It has been lightning fast!

Casing material :

C1) 100% Coco-Coir :  This worked but tended to overlay. I have given up on using 100% coir as a casing.

C2) 100% Vermiculite : Although this worked it seemed to take longer for the myc to make it through the casing layer. Maybe seemed was the wrong word. On average it took twice as long.

C3) 50% Coco-Coir 50% Vermiculite : This has been the best so far. It works well, I have not had a problem with overlay, and it seems to fruit well.

Spawning :

When spawning to cow poo I have read many responces from many people suggesting a 1:10 or a 1:5 ratio. Ignore them! I am sure this works but not for me. They seem to contaminate long before the spawn takes hold. My best success has been doing a 1:1 and a 1:2 ratio. Measured by the pint. So for each pint of spawn I add 1 or 2 pints of substrate. Takes less time to reach 100%, gives the contaminates nothing to hold on to, and works good for me!


First off make your rye jars and get them colonized!
(Although this is a WBS tek it should work for rye)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/26004



Second pasteurize the substrate to be spawned to

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23705

Let it cool, spawn the substrate, and put it in the incubator tell it is colonized.

Then make a casing mix, pasteurize the casing mix, let it cool, then for every 1" of substrate add 1/4" of casing. Keep moist and fruit.

Seems simple :wink:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineJon
Registered: 06/28/03
Posts: 961
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Cyber]
    #3084883 - 09/02/04 11:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I got the poo from mycosupply, they didnt say what kind of poo it was. I also got some mycobags that look mushy at the bottom, I was going to use them for spawn. I got the buy 2 get 1 free deal on grain, and it smells like a its a little beany. Ive never got grain bags like that before should I return them?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGr0wer
always improving
Male

Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 5,620
Loc: El Paso, TX Flag
Last seen: 2 hours, 38 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Jon]
    #3085108 - 09/03/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The bottoms of unshook bags and jars alwasy have over cooked grain at the bottom, just break it up.

Cyber im sure using spawn ratrios that high works wonders for colonization and most go more in the 1:4-1:8 area and dont contam. You should try making some higher ratio casings and also try using more straw in the %50-75 area.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineCyber
Ash
Male User Gallery Arcade Champion: Yeti Sports

Registered: 06/14/04
Posts: 1,476
Loc: Dearborn Michigan
Last seen: 6 months, 27 days
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3086373 - 09/03/04 09:13 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Gr0wer said:
Cyber im sure using spawn ratrios that high works wonders for colonization and most go more in the 1:4-1:8 area and dont contam. You should try making some higher ratio casings and also try using more straw in the %50-75 area.




I have tried 1:5 - 1:10 ratios, it is just that they seem to contaminate a lot more that the 1:1 or 1:2. I would always suggest that some one starting out spawning to poo start out at a lower spawn ratio if only to reduces the chances of failure. This is just what has worked for me. I may start working on uping the spawn ratio before long. I am needing to get more spawn from a smaller area. :wink:

As for the straw. I have not found any yet. I kept the HAY ratio low to avoid contamination. Everything I have read on here has suggested that if you use hay you should keep it below 20% of the total.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblemyndreach
philosopher
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/07/04
Posts: 2,368
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: Jon]
    #3086820 - 09/03/04 12:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

i got some poo and don't know what to do




sit on the toilet! hehe...ahem

sorry :wink:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleFucknuckle
Dog Lover

Registered: 04/24/04
Posts: 6,762
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: myndreach]
    #3086832 - 09/03/04 12:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

  :tongue2:


--------------------
What it is, is what it is my Brother.
It is as it is, so suffer thru it.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleutopianglory
Spunkmuffin
Registered: 07/20/02
Posts: 965
Re: I got poo and I dont know what to do [Re: myndreach]
    #3086834 - 09/03/04 12:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I would use Roadkills Growlog he did, very good pictorial demonstration of how to do poo.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop for: ½ Pint Jars, Coir, Mycobags, Pressure Cooker, Rye Grain, Vermiculite, Wild Bird Seed

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* KEEP 'EM ALIVE. Dunking or ReHydrating H Poo/Spawn casings... krill 1,287 3 04/19/06 05:07 PM
by Yefet2000
* Poo/Spawn Ratio
( 1 2 3 4 all )
ACN45 5,555 60 06/27/08 06:43 PM
by wissper
* Low Risk Poo Spawning Idea! Opinions Please!! Gthirteens 842 1 01/23/03 02:34 AM
by Roadkill
* My first poo spawn (Couple o questions now) JoeMama 637 2 06/19/06 06:17 PM
by coda
* Horse Poo Spawn Experiment, We'll see what happens jtk 681 6 06/10/05 03:25 PM
by scatmanrav
* Poo to Poo Spawn trauma47645 807 7 04/03/06 11:16 AM
by Premedman1
* poo spawn failure...hints for next time? *DELETED* Entheoddity 1,839 19 11/12/06 07:59 PM
by kjb1891
* H/poo spawning question ad0130 827 11 05/20/05 04:34 PM
by ad0130

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Magash, Shroomism, george castanza, Prisoner#1, RogerRabbit, Citric, total, FooMan, 13shrooms, stonesun, EvilMushroom666, cronicr, PussyFart
933 topic views. 14 members, 73 guests and 31 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
High Mountain Compost
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.066 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 14 queries.