fahtster said:

That’s like a hour and a half Long interview of questions.. I’m not answering all that

Pans require different growth parameters than cubes.  The mycelium is more delicate and less robust than cubes.  Their range of needs is narrower than cubensis so, there’s less room for play to get them to perform well.

there has been significant movements with growin pans tho… Baba yagas pans in monos.  The Jcm4620’s “jcm chamber”.  Phenodreamer’s Dreamer tubs

I’m currently working on pans in ziplocks with lots of success




I use a substrate of cv, plant ferts and worm castings that’s so reliable and cheap, you couldn’t pay me to go back to hpoo.

So moves are/have been made to make pans easier and simpler but they all have to still meets those much narrower parameters that pans require.  My ziplocks aren’t magic; it’s just the container.  I still have to get the bags warm enough and have mid 90% sustained rh with periodic drops to 80-85%… that can be difficult when you’re at the mercy of your ambient room temp and rh.  This is why automated systems are preferred.  Once you find that balance and sit comfortably in that narrow range of parameters, you’re golden… you make this tray and put it in there and it grows well.. then it becomes like growing cubes

While simple and easier is the preference, it can be a complicated process to get there.  I’ve been growing pans in ziplocks for almost a year and I’m still not 100% satisfied with the results… at least the consistency of results.  I’m close but not quite there

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