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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91508 - 01/04/00 10:04 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Actualy, tryed the wet card board thing I had a cake, and crumbeled it over cardboard then added a layer crumbled more added a layer etc. The under layers worked ok but I found two better and faster methods, it will grow out on Hay faster than cardboard (but will probably not fruit on it), and it was realy fast on choped up pine cones and I'm sure that it will fruit on the pine cones. I got the hay/ straw Idea from stamets (he showed a pix of some growing and the pix stated it was adler wood chips covered with straw, and i also got the pine cone idea from him also, becasue he stated that the only place in the wild that he had ever seen them growing was on pine cones. Peace...

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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91510 - 01/04/00 10:08 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Cool! Do pinecones and hay contam easily?


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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91511 - 01/04/00 11:43 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

hay will contaminate much easier then straw. Its best to use wheat or barley straw if available. Also more nutriants the hay.

I have a friend, Rabbi Ariel, who is friends with Stamets, and has been to his place many times. Although he is not suppose to discuss these species to the general public, he does not consider her general publis and he makes hints here and there for her. But the way he does his outdoor beds of azures and p. cyans is with a layer of alder chips, then cardboard, then more alder chips, with a little local NW fertile soil mixed in. Just a little FYI for you.

What little work I have done with the p. cyans, I did find them to colonized pint jars of finch seed in about 7 weeks. One important note, since they are a temperate species, you will need to have them at cool temps of at least 55f-65F just to get them to germinate. Same goes with azures.

One last note.. for anyone that lives in a region that is not extremely hot most of the year,, and you have the outdoor resources to make a patch of azures, and your willing to give them the TLC and water they need in the dryer months, such as summer, I highly recommend giving an outdoor patch a try. The high from the azures is beyond words, they are incredable. And of course I woudl recommend going to The Spore Works for your azure spores.


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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91512 - 01/04/00 11:55 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Alder chips are great but I stumbled on something that seemed to be favored even more by cyans growing in the wild - dried pieces of blackberry stalk.

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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91513 - 01/04/00 02:59 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Capt. Ive picked P. cyanescens and grown them in the past.

During the past 30 years I have never ever found them around or under blackberry bushes because the bush is to thick and crowde tfor anything else to grow. Like Ivy, they take over everything in the surroundiing growth area. Oh! Here are some images of P. cyanescens growing indoors.

Now here is a batch growing outdoors, originally fruited on soaked corrigated cardbopard and then layered with steer-co wood chips from Sawdust Supply on Harbor Island.

and here are several variations of P. cubensis, P. cyanescens and P. azurescens in cultivation.

These above shrooms as well as a strain from Cambodia may soon be purchased from my friend Rich Gee author of "Cubensis Aquarium Gardening: Workshop Edition."

I will keep you all posted on this information of cultivation of these above species.

Mj




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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91514 - 01/04/00 10:09 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

keep me posted


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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91515 - 01/05/00 12:55 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Those pics of indoor p. cyan cultivation are awsome. Wonder if outdoor beds were brought indoors or started from scratch.

As for these other pics by Rich, there very very nice. I have several of the strains he has here, and both me and my partner have not been able to produce the giants he is producing. So we've come to the conclusion its not within the strain. From the information I've gathered from talking with MJ, is Rich uses a deep layer of his compost, then another deep layer of colonized rye berries, then another deep layer of his compost again. Once the compost has finished colonizing.. these monster mushrooms are produced. I've tried several of these strains with deep layers of finch seed as well as my partner trying them on various substrates, and we just got average 6"-10" mushrooms.
So there is something very positive to be said about compost. I have some of his compost and will be trying it this week again. My first attempts with it were unsuccesfull and it only contaminated. Although its not suppose to need any further pasturization, I would recommend it.

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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91516 - 01/05/00 04:14 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Captain max is right about Ps.cyan loving blackberry stalks. We pick many of then growing in the blackberries this year. There pictures on my site: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Atlantis/3256/bc.htm


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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91517 - 01/05/00 03:55 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

About the pine cones : does it matter what kindof pine or any pine cone? And how can I chop it? also how fine does it need to be?

later,
tweedy.



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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91518 - 01/06/00 07:31 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I think the tree that my neighbor has is a Doug fir. The cones are relitively long and the scales are thin I do not think it will work with the realy hard solid ones, but hay give it a shot. This is mostly just an experament but I tried chopped ones using a Quisanart (sp) to chop them up as fine as I could and also did a bag of just cones, It is dong fine on both but bag of choped ones seem to be moveing faster, which I atribute to less surface space on each choped one so when I shake the bag they get spread around more.
Ryche was right about the hay it does seem to be starting to green mold in a few bags. But the cones seem to be fine + just to see if they contamed I've opened one up to the air 2-3 times a week for the last 3 weeks (I ran out of PF bages) and have had no contam but they are just cones not the choped ones, so the scales may protect the inner more nutriant filled part of the cone from contam. Good luck....

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"I'd lick you,
and I'd like you to like me to lick you,
but I don't need you,
don't need you to like, me to lick you,
If you pleasure turned into pain,
I would still lick for my personal gain,
La la la,
La la la.
(Momus, from "Ping pong" the album.



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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91519 - 01/08/00 06:30 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Just checked with friends at OSU . . . definitely chopped!

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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91520 - 01/09/00 08:53 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

that's amazing, Cyanescens indoors? I thought they were like azures, couldn't be grown indoors, this is awesome, I live where it's hot most of the year, so an indoor tek that actually works would be killer!
anyways, could we get some details?
Oleander

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Re: Bulk Ps. Cyanescens Cultivation
    #91521 - 01/12/00 12:06 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I knew cyans could be grown indoors, but have heard the yields are much lower than natural culutures. Any info on the yields indoors here? That setup looks really nice, making me jealous :smile:



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