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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: SHR007M]
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That's a sub :dancer:
Yes, they definitely can be abit difficult to find, alot less prevalent than other species. Good thing is there are usually a couple around in the area (they grow mostly "gregariously" according to wikipedia, which apparently means "in small groups").

Edited by tok1n (07/06/26 06:59 AM)

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: tok1n] * 1
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Definitely a sub and like tok1n said there’s usually more in the area. If you can find a decent sized patch, starting your own patch is the best way to go. You can get mushrooms every year as long as you keep adding wood chips. Nice find! Also, it’s very common to find them when your basically ready to give up and throw in the towel.


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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: Dandurn777] * 1
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Ok so update. I believe I have found the pattern of where to actually find these. Fairly hard to see given their colour but gorgeous once I started to see them.




Made sure to walk around the area with them in my hand hopefully spreading the spawn. I didn’t take much as it’s just a challenge to find them. One day I may use them medicinally.

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: COOKED101]
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Also the heat on the patches from the red and blue has just gone from a 0 to 100. It had been nice a run for a few years, not a cop in sight all day every day. Now this year I’ve seen more people in one day(I went to 8 different spots in one day 1st June) than I have in last 5 years combined and it hasn’t gone unnoticed.

Just a heads up.



That's crazy about the police presence. I'm not too worried when picking because I'm always on foot and I'm pretty fit so I can run if i need to, and I just make sure i'm seen as little as possible, and that I can dip pretty quickly if I see a police truck. It's other things that make me nervous, traffic stops, etc... even tho my car is discrete, i'm registered, etc... still makes me worried.

What did you see with the police ie. Have you seen anyone caught? Are they actively patrolling the areas? Should we be alot more wary about how we choose our times and locations? The sooner I can get my own patch starting in Perth the better...

Edited by tok1n (07/08/26 03:57 AM)

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: tok1n] * 1
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I didn’t see any police presence at all. Didn’t even see anyone else picking 🤷‍♂️. Was lovely walking around tbh.

Do the police really care when these are so easily available on the black market?

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: SHR007M]
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Police will go after the lowest hanging fruit and will respond if people call them about people picking mushrooms. They have to respond if a member of the public makes a complaint.

As that area is well known for Psilocybin fungi the police have set up stings and roadblocks in that area for decades now. Why wouldn't they? It's easy for them to get arrests and it's good publicity for them.

The amount of police and their operations in that area differ from year to year. Some years they're very proactive and other years not so much.

I guess as this hobby becomes more popular in certain areas you'll see more police there. WA police love this shit.

Links to some videos>>

MUSHROOMS NOT SO MAGIC FOR LOCAL POLICE <<Facebook link


The Magic mushrooms of Balingup FUNGIMENTARY (Full Length).<<Youtune link.

Not trying to scare anyone. It's just something to be aware of and that it's been happening for a long time.

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: SHR007M]
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Grats on your first find :mushroom2:

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: karode13]
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So frustrating that this topic is 20-30 years old and still is more or less in the same position as it was when that documentary was made (in 1995). The police in that documentary literally remind me of the coconut police in the milky joe mighty boosh episode.



The other thing that I am curious about is how the Australian Aborigines have no historical usage. We are talking about a group of people who were exemplary with their knowledge of bushfoods. It wouldn't be too much to imagine they would have had to have stumbled upon this particular mushroom in the tens of thousands of years they have been in Australia. Maybe the Bradshaw rock art was created during a time when the distribution of the subs spanned all the way up to the NT, and then due to an ice age, the environment got alot hotter and drier, and the distribution became more limited (to south-west WA, SA, VIC, TAS, etc..). Anyway, that was a bit of a tangent, just trying to bump this thread because there is some good rain (~50mm) coming in the next few days which can mean only one thing :shroompick:

Peace

Edited by tok1n (07/15/26 08:13 AM)

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: tok1n]
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The Bradshaws are in WA though not in the NT.

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: Warrk]
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My mistake, for some reason thought the Kimberley region was in NT.

Anyway, its just strange to think that the Bradshaws seemingly (controversially) depict people in mushroom trances, but no potential psilocybe species that grows that far north (ie. would have been introduced or occurred that long ago) is a candidate. Before the last ice age, there were cooler temperatures, more abundant food, etc... in the Kimberley and at higher altitude microclimates, P. subaeruginosa could occur, similar to how they can be found in Southern Queensland at higher altitudes. But it's pretty weak soup...

Are you familiar with the controversy surrounding the Bradshaw's and/or Grahame Walsh? I'm still yet to really dig into it...

Edited by tok1n (07/15/26 10:36 PM)

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: tok1n]
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I have Walsh's books on the Bradshaws.

We must be careful in how we interpret rock art or any art for that matter. We really don't know what was going on in the minds of artists when they painted and it is easy for us to mistakenly ascribe meaning to what we see.

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: Warrk]
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I might have to dig into his books.

Maybe you can check what I gather so far, he believes in a "mystery race" that painted them, based on his observation that the techniques and style differ to the other eras of rock art in the same area. Maybe this race was seafaring, and based on the common ground between the African stylised head dresses, skirts, etc.. as well as the presence of Boabab trees in both Africa and the Kimberley, that they might have been a comparatively technologically advanced race from Africa, but he makes no claims. Also, when he asked local Kimberley elders about the paintings they claim that they aren't part of their culture.

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We really don't know what was going on in the minds of artists when they painted and it is easy for us to mistakenly ascribe meaning to what we see.



Yes, the symbols are culturally bound and we would be incorrectly ascribing our own culturally bound meaning to them.

Do you see Terence Mckenna's theory of the symbiosis of cubensis, cattle and African humans as congruent, at least with the speculation that these paintings could be of African origin (disregarding the meaning of the paintings)?

Here is an interesting segment from a Terence Mckenna's video titled "Terence McKenna - Psilocybin Mushrooms and Evolutionary Realms"
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there were several waves of human migration Out of Africa and into the
Middle East uh but I maintain on based on the archaeological evidence that only the last wave of migration Out of Africa which began only 20,000 years ago uh were the people anything other than hunter gatherers always before they were just Hunter gathers but this last time
in the intervening glacial period they had learned to domesticate cattle in Africa and it was almost as though the
human population was Finding its way toward the cattle and of course in the dung of the cattle was the mushroom



Is he referring to the Last Glacial Maximum in the Pleistocene (which was ~21,000 years ago)? And then the Bradshaws appeared during or after this period too?

Edited by tok1n (07/16/26 12:26 AM)

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: tok1n]
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How many patches do you guys have to check out? So far I have two. One seems to have a very high yield. I have cultivated some mycelium and wondering if I should put it in the high yield area or somewhere new 🤷‍♂️

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: SHR007M]
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I currently just check one large area that has a few patches in it, but its more of a trail which takes roughly an hour to walk (while picking). I don't have enough time to search for new patches since the round trip takes me 6 hours and I don't want to stay overnight.

I'm not too familiar with making new spots with myc.

Edited by tok1n (07/16/26 08:48 AM)

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: tok1n]
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Whatever "mystery race" is supposed to mean I dunno, do people even talk about "races" anymore?

It was just a different culture and a different people who painted the Bradshaws, and this is based not on genetic data but on the stylistic differences in the Bradshaw paintings compared to other rock art of the area.

There is nothing to suggest that psilocybin mushrooms or African people had anything to do with the Bradshaw paintings as far as I know.

McKenna said a lot of wild things. Some things kinda could be true while others are just crazy conjecture.

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: Warrk] * 1
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The "mystery race" thing is perhaps an outdated way of saying a group of people, because 50,000 years ago is presumably too recent for it to be anything but Homo Sapien.

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There is nothing to suggest that psilocybin mushrooms or African people had anything to do with the Bradshaw paintings as far as I know.



That's the part I find interesting, specifically this research here on these images:



With the caption:

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Mushroom head’ depiction shared by Sandawe (A) and Bradshaw (B) cultures. Extant Sandawe shamans testify that this depiction represents the subjective experience of a trance under the influence of magic mushrooms (Psilocybe spp.). We can validly assume that these identical icons have the same meaning in the Bradshaw culture, even though it is extinct, without extant human witnesses.



Sandawe people are an indigenous ethnic group of Southeast Africa, and Baobab trees are native there.

Edited by tok1n (07/18/26 02:21 AM)

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: tok1n] * 1
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This is interesting stuff and I will have to do more reading on the topic especially the research by Pettigrew.

There is no doubt an uncanny resemblance between the 2 examples of rock art you have shown, of the mushroom head depiction. I am open to the interpretation and meaning of this resemblance as I am to the fact that the baobab is found in the Kimberley as well as in Tanzania.

However, with my skeptical hat on, the question I would ask is how close actually is the resemblance between the Bradshaw rock art on the one hand, and Sandawe rock art on the other, on a statistical basis covering the estimated 100,000 rock art sites and millions of individual artistic images comprising the Bradshaws, when compared to the totality of Sandawe rock art. Is there any analysis we can read up on?

The Australian baobab link to Tanzania must also be looked at with more discerning eyes because the baobab is not restricted to Tanzania but is found in many parts of Africa as well as in Madagascar. Here is a baobab distribution map in Africa:



If the Sandawe were indeed responsible for the Bradshaws, I wonder what happened to them. How did they get to Australia and were they absorbed into the local Aboriginal population?

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: SHR007M]
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Yes SHROO7M - you should definitely place that myc in a suitable area. They'll happy grow well outside of the triangle, too.

I personally just go picking in my backyard now. I randomly stumbled upon a large patch of subs there. I did absolutely nothing to start the patch, either; it formed totally on its own. One day when I was in my backuard, I looked down and saw a sub. Kept looking, and found maybe 100 others. All found around some native WA trees (Agonis flexuosa). I have zero clue how old this patch is. The subs could have easily been there for many years (the patch seems very established). I'm shocked it took me this long to discover it, but then again - my backyard was the last place on earth I would have ever thought to forage in the first place.

I live WELL outside the triangle, too (North).

This totally disproves the whole "patches only naturally form in the triangle" theory.

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: Warrk]
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The paper is well worth the read. Loved the part about how the strong westerlies in the Pleistocene summers in the Indian Ocean...and that if the Sandawe aligned their course with the rising sun (which they might have done if they were religious/worshipped the sun), then they would be heading from Tanzania directly to the Kimberley.



I thought that was a nice hypothesis.

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how close actually is the resemblance between the Bradshaw rock art on the one hand, and Sandawe rock art on the other, on a statistical basis covering the estimated 100,000 rock art sites and millions of individual artistic images comprising the Bradshaws, when compared to the totality of Sandawe rock art



This sounds like a really good use of AI, maybe some sort of image classification study, where you train the model on the dataset of the million odd Bradshaws, and then once the model is trained you feed it some of the images from the Sandawe and see how well it can classify it.

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The Australian baobab link to Tanzania must also be looked at with more discerning eye



Yes, the baobab definitely is not unique to Tanzania, but it is certain that it came from somewhere in Africa, and this provides a theory of how exactly baobabs were introduced in the last 100,000 years ( which is apparently what genetic sequencing has shown the timeframe is). The current leading theory is something like they managed to float across the Indian Ocean and randomly hit the Kimberley (and nowhere else). 


I know its a long shot, but damn, a shamanistic culture that used psilocybin (most likely cubensis) and made it across the Indian Ocean to settle in Australia is pretty epic if you ask me!

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If the Sandawe were indeed responsible for the Bradshaws... what happened to them...and were they absorbed into the local Aboriginal population?



Good question...

Edited by tok1n (07/19/26 03:29 AM)

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Re: **Official Western Australia Psilocybin Season 2026** - NO ID REQUESTS - [Re: tok1n]
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I did read the Pettigrew paper and the thing that stood out to me is that it was published not in an archaeology or rock art journal but in "Clinical and Experimental Optometry". That's really strange! Perhaps the peer-review process rejected Pettigrew's paper in the standard archaeology and rock art academic journals and the only place that would accept the paper was "Clinical and Experimental Optometry"?

It is also worth bearing in mind that Pettigrew was a neuroscientist by training and not an archaeologist.

Similarly, Graeme Walsh was not part of the rock art/archaeology academic community and was an amateur archaeologist at best.

Both Walsh and Pettigrew are probably best described as "fringe".

The part about the strong westerlies is based on modelling and I'm just not confident of models being that accurate when you go back to the Pleistocene era... there are too many variables and it was too long ago. Just look at modern day weather forecasting... the models can get things wrong for tomorrow's weather so if we're talking about tens of thousands of years ago the margin of error will much larger.

About the statistical analysis, this is from the Wikipedia entry on "Gwion Gwion rock paintings":

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Scholars have generally rejected the idea that Gwion Gwion art was painted by anyone other than Aboriginal people. Statistical analysis undertaken by Michael Barry has concluded that the Gwion Gwion art shares no stylistic attributes with prehistoric figurative art overseas. Moreover, Barry argues that stylistically, Gwion Gwion art has more in common with art found elsewhere in Australia, such as figures painted in Arnhem Land.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwion_Gwion_rock_paintings

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