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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 5
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TTBVI

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gulis]
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gulis said:


TTBVI


:nice:

What's the setup and substrate?


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 2
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Yeah presumably Lentinus Squarrosulus(?) I think, but honestly all things considered, at least this showed me that if I spend 6+ months doing agar and grain transfers to work genetics, I can apparently get them good enough for a wood lover to grow pretty healthily on manure😂


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 7
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2 p. Straw
1 p. Manure
1/2 p. Verm

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gulis] * 2
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MIB

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gulis]
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gulis said:


2 p. Straw
1 p. Manure
1/2 p. Verm


Thanks, what is your fruiting setup?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Gonna pick my aborts and remist then just leave it alone. Got a few more trays and hoping to get some fruits!

Edited by Nate em All (06/29/26 03:40 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Nth special. Tent 80-95% low co2 the lowest the better.

Edited by gulis (06/29/26 10:05 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gulis]
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And probably tray with water and sort of heater on the bottom of tent ?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Noah Keeper] * 4
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It depends on the species of Panaelous and, above all, on the season. Over the past five years, I've experimented with quite a few different things and ended up back at the beginning. In other words, the most important factors are clean spawn and proper pasteurization

Edited by gulis (06/29/26 10:28 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gulis] * 1
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I will figure out pans this summer. I do not wanna go back to cubes. If I figured out Ingelis then I can do this



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Nate em All] * 2
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Cross posting some info from the advanced mycology thread.

According to the microscopy keys, this is a cambo.



And this is a cyan.



But this is two different mature fruit bodies from the same tray.  One showing thin walled metuloids and one showing thick walls.

And some additional context, the available ITS sequences for cambos group with cyanescens.  They share habitat.  And they cross breed very easily.

I don't think cambos are a species.  But a metuloid expression.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Nate em All]
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Put that bloody box with water and a heater under the mushroom tray and let the air circulate naturally😁 Whether it’s a box or a tent doesn’t matter — that’s the key point.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Noah Keeper]
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I just got space in my dreamer so might as well put it there. Gonna have to build a new one soon.

I'm hoping to have trays in bags going when I'm out of space

Edited by Nate em All (06/29/26 12:23 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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These are cyans expressing with both thin and thick walled metuloids? Do "cambos" also have both?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: arlo.arlo]
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Cambos are always thin walled and cyanescens always thicker, at least at maturity.  According to the microscopy keys.  This is the main difference between them.

https://files.shroomery.org/attachments/8599316-Gerhardt%20Copelandia%20Section%20in%20English.pdf

There's a bunch of drawings showing the various types from back in the day.

But now we have sequenced at least two cambo collections; Sandoz and one Pollock found in Columbia.

And we can see they cluster with the cyanescens.



And Komodo Island has been crossed with cyanescens.  It was also found near a cyan patch.

I think back in the day they never tried to breed them, and didn't have access to sequencing.  So gave them two different labels.

Pollocks cambo is here and you can see that this paper already calls them cyanescens (NBRC 30222).

https://www.nite.go.jp/nbrc/catalogue/NBRCCatalogueDetailServlet?ID=NBRC&CAT=00030222



https://imafungus.pensoft.net/article/167329/

I imagine some specimens may favor one expression over the other.  But I think it's more like poodles and chihuahuas, instead of poodles and coyotes.

Or the short version...

I think it's unlikely they're different species given all the evidence and my observations from the tray displaying both metuloid types this week.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (06/29/26 02:31 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 6
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TTBVI

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris] * 4
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Anomalocaris said:
I decided to recase it. I added a very thin casing layer ( all the pasteurised casing I had left)



Im using ez dial monotub with a few extra holes. I opened up a couple extra holes now. I also have a fan in the room not pointing at the tub running on low for 3 minutes every hour just to have some more fae.

You think its gonna be enough? I can also increase how long the fan stays on but im worried it will dry the tub


Just to add some data points. I grow them in tubs with more holes. Takes some dialing in for your setting but it can be done without foggers and fans. Maybe not as well as a dreamer, tent or other more complex set ups, but doable.

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Pan Cyan Bunnell
trays 1988 1989 from jars 1936 1937 2nd gen clone
1pt spawn 3pt compressed hpoo/coir 1/2 pt top layer
Spawned 2024-06-14.
Filter stickers on inside of all holes except 2 top center short side at spawn.

Day 3


Day 4

Cased

Day 6

Pins!

Day 7


Day 11

Small caps on an even pin set, if a bit sparse. Opened a couple of low middle holes on the long sides in hopes of improving the cap size for prints. Likely too late to help with this flush. They also did not get any misting for the last three days due to traveling.

Day 13

Harvest 1. Small caps.

Day 19

Harvest 2 with larger caps for printing.

Day 20

Heading for flush three.

Day 25

One tray got the green. I left the house at 80f for several days which didn't help. I think the unusual expression was caused by the contam but was interesting enough for a bunch of pictures. Composted the green tray and will keep an eye on the other.

Day 28

Flush 4 inbound.

Day 30

When I returned they looked ready to print so I obliged them.

Dark after 12 hours so started another round.



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Pan Cambo Komodo
trays 1990 1991 from jars 1940 1941 2nd gen clone
1pt spawn 3pt compressed hpoo/coir 1/2 pt top layer
Spawned 2024-06-14.
Filter stickers on inside of all holes except 2 top center short side at spawn

Day 3


Day 4

Cased

Day 6

Pins!

Day 7


Day 11

Liking this pin set. Would be happier with larger caps. Opened middle low holes on the long sides. No misting for the last three days due to travel. Also wondering about the exploding stipes.

Day 13

1st flush harvest.

Day 19

2nd flush harvest with better caps for printing.


Day 20

Heading for 3rd.

Day 25

Left the house thermostat on 80f while traveling and came back to some stressed fruits. Harvested, misted and sent back to work.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Looks amazing!

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