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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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98-92 is probably fine.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Could use some guidance on BVI & Weza plates as I’m doing agar for the first time. The BVI plates are blueing at germination (B2) and at T1 (A&B). Are these all totally contamed and trash or is blueing just bruising and due to high psilosin content? The tomentose growth on the T1s away from the wedge seem fine but know that cotton candy can just hide contam…. The  Weza germ plates (C/D) are clearly suffering from other contam not shown on the BVI, will transfer and clean up. Just confusing why they would seemingly have different shit going on…thanks for any thoughts. I also have Ingeli going on plates from the same pour- no contam whatsoever.

Edited by Cerberus909 (06/26/26 08:10 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
98-92 is probably fine.



Hmmm it seems I have a real hard time getting above 95. The whole tub is filled with fog I cant see anything. Either the sensor is wrong or having holes and a cracked lid makes it hard to reach 98. Which one you think it is


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Cross posting from cake wars.  This was a homemade multi spore syringe to PF Tek.  The only thing I really did different from cubes is I'm fruiting it in the jar and I left some verm on top for a make shift casing.

tree frog said:
I have pan cyan pins!  Temp is still low 70s and high 60s.

And in a 12 quart dub water tub too!  No lights, no heat.  No misting, just the initial pf dunk.  No added nitrogen and no casing.



But it wasn't the one I planned to enter :lol:





TF-  Do you mean you dunk the cakes and put them back in the jar??

I’m doing 30-some pan cakes (bisporus) and was intending on top-fruiting.  They took a long time to colonize these little half-pint jars (two months) but they haven’t stalled and are almost there.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Anomalocaris said:
Hmmm it seems I have a real hard time getting above 95. The whole tub is filled with fog I cant see anything. Either the sensor is wrong or having holes and a cracked lid makes it hard to reach 98. Which one you think it is



I would think it's the sensor, could you post a picture of the setup?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
Anomalocaris said:
Hmmm it seems I have a real hard time getting above 95. The whole tub is filled with fog I cant see anything. Either the sensor is wrong or having holes and a cracked lid makes it hard to reach 98. Which one you think it is



I would think it's the sensor, could you post a picture of the setup?







Its a 30l ez dial monotub i modified last minute cuz i think it just wont work well for pans.

I added an inkbird sensor and a reptile fogger and cracked the lid open for a lot more fae.

Also got a fan running in the grow room for 10 minutes per hour on a timer.

Feels like something is wrong that it wont go much above 95% with the fogger at max setting and the whole tub filled with thick fog.

I guess tomorrow ill do a damp cloth test on the sensor and see what it reads.

Other than that do you think theres anything else it could be?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Anomalocaris said:




Its a 30l ez dial monotub i modified last minute cuz i think it just wont work well for pans.

I added an inkbird sensor and a reptile fogger and cracked the lid open for a lot more fae.

Also got a fan running in the grow room for 10 minutes per hour on a timer.

Feels like something is wrong that it wont go much above 95% with the fogger at max setting and the whole tub filled with thick fog.

I guess tomorrow ill do a damp cloth test on the sensor and see what it reads.

Other than that do you think theres anything else it could be?



Setup looks good, if you're getting thick fog all the time it's the sensor, I have the same inkbird and in a ez dial tub I had the alarm go off all the time because it was at 99%.

It's not that important that the sensor is wrong, if it wasn't you would have the same alarm go off as well and it's annoying as fuck :lol:

I now have humidifiers with sensor, but I still monitor surface conditions to dial in my fogger settings, how is your casing looking? With pans I try to dial it in where no part of the casing ever dries out, but I do not want it soggy or by no means pooling.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Yeah, watch the casing rather than the sensor.  If the casing stays damp, the pins will be fine.  But this is why I prefer a timer rather then relying on the rH to control the fog.  Plus most sensors aren't very accurate above 90.

@Jack, I was doing regular pf tek cakes.  So they get a long soak before fruiting to hydrate.

I'm not sure that the same is done with the pan cakes tek.  But if the cake has shrunk a lot, I probably would.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 4
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hey tree frog! happy to see you back:hug:

I was having a hard time with some showboxes and I think it was a light i put the tubs under.....i backed things up a good bit and getting a response from ind01.  tried 2 of these mushrooms fresh the other night:yesnod:


and hopefully some other spots in the yard start soon too

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 4
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Good to see you too fam!

Awesome!  What do you have going in the yard?

I started some old Oregon or maybe liquid amber from LI (I didn't label the jars) outside.  And have a few more jars of likely another 'not trop' based on early microscopy going that I'll probably run outside.

And definitely want to get some India out there too!  Shaping up to be a good summer for growing :smile:

This was cool though, made a homemade version of this weed soil some of my friends are using called bioflower (peat, coir, biochar, perlite 4:4:1:1).  I dosed it with Mojave nutes for minerals and npk.  And split a grain jar with a Mojave CV+ control.  Controlled for conditione etc.

The experimental sub pinned a couple of days ago.  Quite a few side pins, decent second flush coming in on top though, and no bottom pins anyway.  This is the likely not trop.




The control hasn't pinned.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Is that too wet? The fogger ran on high for like 30 mins to reach 94%.  It looks like its a bit much not sure why its taking so long to reach that humidity


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Anomalocaris said:


Is that too wet? The fogger ran on high for like 30 mins to reach 94%.  It looks like its a bit much not sure why its taking so long to reach that humidity



I think I see some pooling so yeah, I would say that is too much, it is taking that amount of time because the sensor is inaccurate, if I was to guess :strokebeard:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
Anomalocaris said:


Is that too wet? The fogger ran on high for like 30 mins to reach 94%.  It looks like its a bit much not sure why its taking so long to reach that humidity



I think I see some pooling so yeah, I would say that is too much, it is taking that amount of time because the sensor is inaccurate, if I was to guess :strokebeard:




I just wrapped the sensor in a damp towel and put in a ziploc bag for 1 hour and it reads 93% when it should read near 98%. So it seems about 5% off which seems right because I couldnt reach higher than 95% with the fogger full steam for a long time.

For my fan in the room running on low I have it running for 8 minutes per hour. Do you think thats good enough im mostly just guessing.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Damn because the fogger ran for so long many times theres a lot of pooled water all over the sides of the tub and yellowish color. Is there something I can do about that or its screwed



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Anomalocaris said:
I just wrapped the sensor in a damp towel and put in a ziploc bag for 1 hour and it reads 93% when it should read near 98%. So it seems about 5% off which seems right because I couldnt reach higher than 95% with the fogger full steam for a long time.

For my fan in the room running on low I have it running for 8 minutes per hour. Do you think thats good enough im mostly just guessing.



Like I wrote earlier, it's a good thing the sensor is wrong, if it was correct you would have the 99% rh alarm go off all the time.

Keep using the casing as a way to dial in the tub, I have run my fans 15 minutes of every hour and it has done fine. Mine is on the tub though, but the gap you made with the lid resting on the latches should provide pretty good FAE if you run a fan in the room once an hour.

If you get small fruits with small caps it's time to increase FAE, and yes, there's nothing but guessing when we first dial in our tubs, no tub or surrounding environment is the same from house to house, so just keep trying different adjustments until you find what works with your setup, you'll learn a lot during the dial in and you'll come out a better grower on the other side of this.

There's always the next grow if this one fails.
:snoopyes:

Anomalocaris said:
Damn because the fogger ran for so long many times theres a lot of pooled water all over the sides of the tub and yellowish color. Is there something I can do about that or its screwed



Yellow water is from the substrate don't panic, pans really don't like a soggy substrate. So if you can get most of it out by tipping the tub and lower the humidifier it might help, just don't let the casing dry out.


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Edited by Kloakk (06/27/26 01:55 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
Anomalocaris said:
I just wrapped the sensor in a damp towel and put in a ziploc bag for 1 hour and it reads 93% when it should read near 98%. So it seems about 5% off which seems right because I couldnt reach higher than 95% with the fogger full steam for a long time.

For my fan in the room running on low I have it running for 8 minutes per hour. Do you think thats good enough im mostly just guessing.



Like I wrote earlier, it's a good thing the sensor is wrong, if it was correct you would have the 99% rh alarm go off all the time.

Keep using the casing as a way to dial in the tub, I have run my fans 15 minutes of every hour and it has done fine. Mine is on the tub though, but the gap you made with the lid resting on the latches should provide pretty good FAE if you run a fan in the room once an hour.

If you get small fruits with small caps it's time to increase FAE, and yes, there's nothing but guessing when we first dial in our tubs, no tub or surrounding environment is the same from house to house, so just keep trying different adjustments until you find what works with your setup, you'll learn a lot during the dial in and you'll come out a better grower on the other side of this.

There's always the next grow if this one fails.
:snoopyes:

Anomalocaris said:
Damn because the fogger ran for so long many times theres a lot of pooled water all over the sides of the tub and yellowish color. Is there something I can do about that or its screwed



Yellow water is from the substrate don't panic, pans really don't like a soggy substrate. So if you can get most of it out by tipping the tub and lower the humidifier it might help, just don't let the casing dry out.




Ok thx for the help. I dumped the excess water outside.

Im learning a lot allready my next one will be a proper dreamer tub. Had to wing it on the fly for that one because It didnt seem like a regular ez dial tub would work


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris] * 5
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Anomalocaris said:
Ok thx for the help. I dumped the excess water outside.

Im learning a lot allready my next one will be a proper dreamer tub. Had to wing it on the fly for that one because It didnt seem like a regular ez dial tub would work



Happy to help man, I was right there just a short year ago and it's nerve wrecking :uhoh: A regular ez dial does work, but getting good results takes time and effort.

TTBVI in ez dial.




Bisporus in ez dial.


TTBVI in a dreamer.




Bisporus in a dreamer.


And you're doing the right thing here, learning by doing is the best way to achieve the results you want, keep up the good work bud :rockon:


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Kloakk said:
And you're doing the right thing here, learning by doing is the best way to achieve the results you want, keep up the good work bud :rockon:



Definitely this!  We use machines to measure and share ranges, but ultimately we have to learn to read the casing and the mushrooms.  Because our machines are all calibrated a bit different.

There's no prescription.  And different phenotypes of the same species can even have different preferences.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Well at least I know now my sensor was 5% off. My fogger was foggin the SHIT out of the tub and never stopping

I also calibrated it at -5 now so a 85 reading means its actually 95. That way  it will never reach the annoying alarm at 100


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Anomalocaris said:
Well at least I know now my sensor was 5% off. My fogger was foggin the SHIT out of the tub and never stopping

I also calibrated it at -5 now so a 85 reading means its actually 95. That way  it will never reach the annoying alarm at 100



:highfive:

There you go man, you're dialing in the tubs and your skills, love to see it :hatsoff:


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