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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
cronicr said:
Mr Piggy said:
HydroShroom24 said:
Cooking: Pressure Cook, and Canning: High Pressure, are two distinct settings. IDK which one to use.

PF-TEK Pots:

How do I find a good pot do steam-sterilize jars? Can someone link me to an exact make and model pot for steam sterilization that WORKS RELIABLY ? thanks



Any pot with a lid is good enough to steam sanitize.  You cannot sterilize with steam.  So, any pot is good enough to steam cakes.

You want a pressure canner, not a pressure cooker, if you’re going to go that route.  Something designed to pressure can jars of food in, not just a pressure cooker.  All of the TEKs on here are based off of 15 PSI, which you need a canner to get to.

You’re asking the same questions over and over, I feel like you’re not reading the responses you’re getting.



Pressure cookers will get to 15 psi, the only difference between a cooker and a canner is size
The reason a canner is needed is simply due to size and water , a pressure cooker doesn't hold enough water long enough to trust canning with , I believe the name switch starts at a 16 qt vessel



I haven't ever come across a 15 psi cooker, but I trust they exist :shrug:



Iurah the old school Prestos use the same weights , I got a super old school presto that the weight is either 5 10 or 15 but no matter what weight it's lucky to make 40 minutes 😂


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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Posting again because I didn’t get an answer last time.

Does this look like Jack Frost? I feel like I got a mislabeled wedge lol



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Edited by bluespirit13 (02/11/26 08:35 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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Mr Piggy said:
cronicr said:
Mr Piggy said:
HydroShroom24 said:
Cooking: Pressure Cook, and Canning: High Pressure, are two distinct settings. IDK which one to use.

PF-TEK Pots:

How do I find a good pot do steam-sterilize jars? Can someone link me to an exact make and model pot for steam sterilization that WORKS RELIABLY ? thanks



Any pot with a lid is good enough to steam sanitize.  You cannot sterilize with steam.  So, any pot is good enough to steam cakes.

You want a pressure canner, not a pressure cooker, if you’re going to go that route.  Something designed to pressure can jars of food in, not just a pressure cooker.  All of the TEKs on here are based off of 15 PSI, which you need a canner to get to.

You’re asking the same questions over and over, I feel like you’re not reading the responses you’re getting.



Pressure cookers will get to 15 psi, the only difference between a cooker and a canner is size
The reason a canner is needed is simply due to size and water , a pressure cooker doesn't hold enough water long enough to trust canning with , I believe the name switch starts at a 16 qt vessel



I haven't ever come across a 15 psi cooker, but I trust they exist :shrug:




Preach, brotha. Canners > cookers

It's all about temperature,

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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Canners are always better than cookers , cookers are meant for 30 minute cooks , built this as any normal pot don't have gauges and lack most safety features , even when I cook food I use my canner lol
Cookers heat and cool to fast for our use , good for tools useless for anything else


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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Alright so final settings check:

Jars 4oz pf-tek BRF, raised above water level.

~8 cups of water inside main interior pot.

Setting: Canning: High Pressure.

10 minutes steaming venting.

60 minutes sterilization, 7 hours cool-down then removal from pressure canner, then inoculate with spores.

Sound right? thanks =)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HydroShroom24]
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Just wait till the next day to inoculate , they could and likely will still be too hot after a few hours , don't rush it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HydroShroom24]
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Stop!
You need 8oz jars for PF tek.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind] * 2
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No they dont. People use 4 oz jars as well. Not as much for growing flushes.  it just won't be a full PF cake technically it'll be a BRF puck.


These are better for cleaning up cultures and stuff. Check out revs write up. there's actually a lot of good uses for them.

Pristine BRF Puck tek

but they still will grow just like an 8 oz cake would. Well maybe not exactly but shrooms will  definitely still grow.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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So are the rest of my settings right?

And yes, I prefer and have had success with 4 batches of several cakes, with 4oz jars. They colonize more quickly than 8oz cakes, that's why I like them. They are just more prone to dehydrating during sterilization, but again, I've had 4 perfect batches of 6 pf-tek 4oz cakes. No contam, at least two flushes each cake for all of them, several strains.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HydroShroom24] * 1
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I think Piggy said it before.

If your moisture content is right in the recipe.

You shouldn't be worrying  about cakes dehydrating in the pc.

We're using high pressure steam to penetrate/sterilize.  moisture is abundant during  the process.

Its not getting sucked out of your jars when you PC them. Stop worrying about that.  No need for the head ache


However,

them drying out quicker after the fact is definitely more likely. Nothing a little bottom watering wouldn't take care of though.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I am using a NESCO 9.5qt digital smart canner, and it says to add 8 cups of water and place the jars on the canning rack. However, I am also told to not let the water touch the jars directly, to allow only steam to touch the jars.

At 3 cups of water added, the water is touching the bottom of the jars on the rack.

Thus, I can't add enough water to ensure the pot doesn't boil dry.
And, the rack is too short.

1. Why did they build the rack to be too short to use correctly?
2. Should I just elevate the rack so the jars aren't touching the water directly?

What do I do? Why can't the build a taller rack...? Someone please help me I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone because thing arn't build properly.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HydroShroom24] * 2
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Water can touch the jars don't worry about it, you're doing pf jars fam. With just a lot we have the water halfway up the jats so don't sweat it just don't sink the fucking things


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hey veterans,

First grow (Ochras) s2b 10 days ago using Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed tub. Should I do something at this point or just keep waiting?

Edited by Osaroki (02/12/26 06:34 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Osaroki] * 1
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I have a shoebox which i labeled Ochra, spawned the 20th of January, and im pretty sure i didnt mislabel it. The only mixup could be with an x7x+ culture, but I streaked two germplates from the same print and took one transfer from each germplate. The plates labeled ochra are looking amlmost identical and I can easily differentiate them from the x7x+ plate. Both got sent to bulk and one of the shoeboxes shows the classic ochra overlay while the tub im suspecting not to be ochra had little overlay, clusters and is looking very cube-like. The fruits are kinda small (~4-5 cm as of now). So QQ, are these looking more cube than ochra to you? and are there any visual cues to differentiate between the species? PS: the shoebox below sat one night without its lid and dried out a bit because im a dummy :rolleyes:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr] * 1
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cronicr said:
Water can touch the jars don't worry about it, you're doing pf jars fam. With just a lot we have the water halfway up the jats so don't sweat it just don't sink the fucking things



This

As someone who uses an Instapot for grains/agar, water touching the jars is not an issue at all.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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DiscoDave said:
I have a shoebox which i labeled Ochra, spawned the 20th of January, and im pretty sure i didnt mislabel it. The only mixup could be with an x7x+ culture, but I streaked two germplates from the same print and took one transfer from each germplate. The plates labeled ochra are looking amlmost identical and I can easily differentiate them from the x7x+ plate. Both got sent to bulk and one of the shoeboxes shows the classic ochra overlay while the tub im suspecting not to be ochra had little overlay, clusters and is looking very cube-like. The fruits are kinda small (~4-5 cm as of now). So QQ, are these looking more cube than ochra to you? and are there any visual cues to differentiate between the species? PS: the shoebox below sat one night without its lid and dried out a bit because im a dummy :rolleyes:





In my opinion, those look like cubes. My Ochra pinset looked like so:

Ochra tub

Very different than what you got going on


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Archespore]
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I have some nice pin growth starting in a water tub. My question is - what is this growth on the top right cake? Close up also provided. It almost looks like a mushroom forming with no cap? There's also something kind of similar on the cake right above the right water cup, that one is down near the lid it's sitting in.




Anything I should be concerned about?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: neuroshaman]
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Had a lot of shit hindering me from properly pursuing this project and these millet jars ended up sitting in a drawer for over 3 months or something.
From the outside it looks completely colonized, but breaking it up a bit the core looks quite different - besides from looking pretty dried out.
Guess it's cooked but I'm asking anyways. Is it perhaps normal with these grains that the outer casing does not get covered in mycelium or did I fuck up another time?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: brominegeek93]
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never mind. this smells odd. I think there is something bacterial going on. 
I ended up using a single 250ml jar that didn't have this oddly sweet odor. maybe that's enough for around 1L of substrate in a 5L tote


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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callmehippie said:
No they dont. People use 4 oz jars as well.



Yeah. It was a joke. I’ve seen the poster’s half dozen posts asking the same question about the settings on a pressure cooker for a process that can be done with a steaming pot of boiling water. Just trying to match the alarmist tone.

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