Home | Community | Message Board

MagicBag Grow Bags
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   Myyco.com APE Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy

Jump to first unread post Pages: < First | | 3633 | 3634 | 3635 | 3636 | 3637 | 3638 | 3639 | 3640 | 3641 | 3642 | 3643 | 3644 | 3645 | 3646 | 3647 | 3648 | 3649 | 3650 | 3651 | 3652 | 3653 | | Last >
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Archespore]
    #29480858 -

If you're not worrying about spores dumping how do you choose when to harvest?  I don't know how long to let these bad boys go.  They pinned about a week ago.  I think they can mature for another week...  The caps should continue to invert and get frilly gills.  This variety is TMAC #3. 


The bottom pic is fully matured fruits from the breeder.




--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xhooliganx]
    #29480885 -



Sorry for the crappy pic, I didn't want to open them all up.

My question > when to pull? I read somewhere that you should pluck them once the veil seperates from the stipe, is that for all the mushrooms on the cake or for each one?

My cakes are going wild right now.

These guys were inoculated exactly 1 month ago, crazy how fast they grew

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: jeffreykite] * 1
    #29480890 -

jeffreykite said:


Sorry for the crappy pic, I didn't want to open them all up.

My question > when to pull? I read somewhere that you should pluck them once the veil seperates from the stipe, is that for all the mushrooms on the cake or for each one?

My cakes are going wild right now.

These guys were inoculated exactly 1 month ago, crazy how fast they grew



Sorry I'm having issues with your pic loading.  If the cap is opening and you don't want spores you can pick the fruit then.  If you're concerned about disrupting a cluster that's partially developed you can cut the cap off of the mushrooms that are going to start dropping spores. The stipe will not rot for probably another week and will allow your other mushrooms to develop.

There is also nothing wrong with pulling all of the mushrooms off and moving on to the next dunk / flush or next cake.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
    #29481056 -

callmehippie said:
Nokumana said:
Nooneusername said:
What do you use to raise the presto trivet?  Screws, jars something else.



I bought four stainless steel carriage bolts with nuts and washers which I bolted through the trivet to raise it up about an inch and a half.




If you do this . it's best to put some rubber sleeves over the tips of the bolts  or some RTV or something because that metal touching the bottom of your PC will cause pitting(erosion)

it happens fast. you can see it on the bottom of your PC. Starts off  looking like dark gray scratches or tiny grey spots/ chips.

It is reversible if you catch it early and take care of it. But if not it can mess with the Integrity of your PC.

Presto has instructions on their website about it.



wait, what?  not if everything's stainless steel, right?  i've had SS bolts and nuts for over a year now, no sign of this happening.  Ive been meaning to get some SS lock washers so i don't have to tighten them, but I have a feeling what you're talking about won't happen if everything is in fact stainless.  right?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xhooliganx]
    #29481087 -

xhooliganx said:
If you're not worrying about spores dumping how do you choose when to harvest? 



With pans that don't drop spores the stipes will start to abort (turn blue) when they give up growing.

I think stipes getting softer is the usual test with cubes?


--------------------
And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HydroShroom24]
    #29481107 -

HydroShroom24 said:
Cooking: Pressure Cook, and Canning: High Pressure, are two distinct settings. IDK which one to use.

PF-TEK Pots:

How do I find a good pot do steam-sterilize jars? Can someone link me to an exact make and model pot for steam sterilization that WORKS RELIABLY ? thanks



Any pot with a lid is good enough to steam sanitize.  You cannot sterilize with steam.  So, any pot is good enough to steam cakes.

You want a pressure canner, not a pressure cooker, if you’re going to go that route.  Something designed to pressure can jars of food in, not just a pressure cooker.  All of the TEKs on here are based off of 15 PSI, which you need a canner to get to.

You’re asking the same questions over and over, I feel like you’re not reading the responses you’re getting.


--------------------
🅃🄴🄰🄼 🄸🄷🄾🄿


New to cultivation or the shroomery?  Observe the hitchhiker's guide

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery



Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
    #29481116 -

Mr Piggy said:
HydroShroom24 said:
Cooking: Pressure Cook, and Canning: High Pressure, are two distinct settings. IDK which one to use.

PF-TEK Pots:

How do I find a good pot do steam-sterilize jars? Can someone link me to an exact make and model pot for steam sterilization that WORKS RELIABLY ? thanks



Any pot with a lid is good enough to steam sanitize.  You cannot sterilize with steam.  So, any pot is good enough to steam cakes.

You want a pressure canner, not a pressure cooker, if you’re going to go that route.  Something designed to pressure can jars of food in, not just a pressure cooker.  All of the TEKs on here are based off of 15 PSI, which you need a canner to get to.

You’re asking the same questions over and over, I feel like you’re not reading the responses you’re getting.



Pressure cookers are great!  Buy a used 8qt instant pot for $30 on FB marketplace or at a thrift store.  You want an 8 qt because it can hold 3 qt jars.  The 6 qt instant pot won't fit a qt jar, only pints(not tall enough).  You pressure cook for 3.5 hours and you're good to go.  Don't forget to vent!

It seriously the best bang for your buck for sterilization, but you can't follow the 15 psi timing that people use with stove top pressure canners / cookers.  The reach 12-13 psi.  You just have to understand how time and temperature play a roll in sterilization.  You don't need to hit 250*f for sterilization.  It just sterilizes faster at that temp.  If you're hitting 240-245f with an electric pressure cooker it will absolutely sterilize what ever endospore filled feedlot grain you put in there if you give it enough time.  My recommendation is set it for 4 hours when you go to bed.  Wake up to perfectly sterilized grain.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 3
    #29481136 -

Kloakk said:
nektar61 said:
I've had rhizo with x7x+ in all different mixes of agar, but it often doesn't show up until first transfer of agar. T1, T2 etc were rhizo. Some rhizo in jars. Some rhizo on tubs. Some rhizo ariel mycelium on tops of caps. Someone was getting a lot of that on every grow.



I have the same experience as DiscoDave, never went rhizo until grains, didn't stop it from giving canopies and a cumbucket of spores though :rofl:



cumbucket would have been a more memorable name.

But really, I should have called it Bukkake Sunrise.


--------------------
--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #29481143 -

Mr Piggy said:
markh said:
I have 4 jars of oats that I injected Azure LC into over a month ago and no signs of life yet. Assuming the LC was dead. I have 1 jar of ape spawn that has been consolidating for 6 weeks now. My question is, can I use the 4 jars that did not take and do G2G with the Ape spawn into those jars? Or should I just make more jars of grain?



Make more jars, do not reuse the old ones.



Thanks Piggy, I will dump them and start over.


--------------------
What's the hardest part of cultivating shrooms?
As Tom Petty said... "the wa-a-iting is the hardest part"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
    #29481148 -


The spot up top scares me but if it doesn’t expand I’m not paying it much attention, pins have white spots and more mature fruits are splitting at the caps, not really sure what’s wrong?
Closer:


--------------------

Edited by toadking (02/11/26 12:53 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: toadking]
    #29481155 -

If I had contamination in a jar, will cleaning it out and scrubbing take care of it? There was some kind of black mold. Dishwasher did not get it out so it is stuck on the inside, I was gonna use something tough to remove it all and probably soak in bleach or something.


--------------------
The closer you get to the meaning the sooner you know that you're dreaming

How the Bushman gets stuff done

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hidingbush] * 1
    #29481157 -

Intense if it didn't come out in the dishwasher! Scrubbing should do it. Whatever is in there dies in the next PC cycle so no worries


--------------------
Learn it, know it, live it


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xhooliganx] * 1
    #29481166 -

xhooliganx said:
Mr Piggy said:
HydroShroom24 said:
Cooking: Pressure Cook, and Canning: High Pressure, are two distinct settings. IDK which one to use.

PF-TEK Pots:

How do I find a good pot do steam-sterilize jars? Can someone link me to an exact make and model pot for steam sterilization that WORKS RELIABLY ? thanks



Any pot with a lid is good enough to steam sanitize.  You cannot sterilize with steam.  So, any pot is good enough to steam cakes.

You want a pressure canner, not a pressure cooker, if you’re going to go that route.  Something designed to pressure can jars of food in, not just a pressure cooker.  All of the TEKs on here are based off of 15 PSI, which you need a canner to get to.

You’re asking the same questions over and over, I feel like you’re not reading the responses you’re getting.



Pressure cookers are great!  Buy a used 8qt instant pot for $30 on FB marketplace or at a thrift store.  You want an 8 qt because it can hold 3 qt jars.  The 6 qt instant pot won't fit a qt jar, only pints(not tall enough).  You pressure cook for 3.5 hours and you're good to go.  Don't forget to vent!

It seriously the best bang for your buck for sterilization, but you can't follow the 15 psi timing that people use with stove top pressure canners / cookers.  The reach 12-13 psi.  You just have to understand how time and temperature play a roll in sterilization.  You don't need to hit 250*f for sterilization.  It just sterilizes faster at that temp.  If you're hitting 240-245f with an electric pressure cooker it will absolutely sterilize what ever endospore filled feedlot grain you put in there if you give it enough time.  My recommendation is set it for 4 hours when you go to bed.  Wake up to perfectly sterilized grain.



I would never use a pressure cooker when for the same price I could have all the space and higher pressure/temps of a canner. 

Pressure cookers are not great when compared to a canner, and we are trying to get this guy to understand the difference between the two since there is a strong language or comprehension barrier.


--------------------
🅃🄴🄰🄼 🄸🄷🄾🄿


New to cultivation or the shroomery?  Observe the hitchhiker's guide

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery



Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tultedspoon] * 3
    #29481353 -

tultedspoon said:
I know a lot of people are using agar for their grows. To achieve reliable flushes and good grows, are most of the epic grow photos on here from a cloned fruit using agar?

Is anyone getting good flushes and grows from spores on agar? Or does all the agar work and transfers somehow achieve mycelium that is more ready to fruit? Is this why agar is recommended moreso than just for clean and non-contaminated samples?

Like maybe doing a couple transfers, that small amount of mycelium hits the growing time needed for it to be more ready to switch to fruiting conditions, then if you spread that agar to some jars or grows, you will end up with way more surface area of mycelium that is ready to fruit? Does this make sense or am I wrong?



this isnt at all a qq.  theres entire threads about it, namely the ones i linked in the hhg but ill see if i can give you a qa.

depends on the spores and how stable the parent culture was. 

heres an analogy:


lets say i grow a tub from a spore syringe.  that syringe might have more genetic differentiation in it than the country of china.  maybe you get lucky and we see some dense citys.  some skyscrapers.  maybe some apartment complexes.

more often youre going to see some rural farming communities. 

but then we clone from one of those dense cities and put it on a plate.  now you have the entire genetic sequence of the city of beijing.  yes, very dense, but every city has its suburbs and even ghettos of shanty shacks and houses.

so now we clone only the dense clusters of skyscrapers.  okay, now we have culture with a high propensity to fruit. 

keep doing this and eventually youll get a culture that just wants to make pure sky scrapers.

does that make sense?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #29481420 -

Mr Piggy said:
HydroShroom24 said:
Cooking: Pressure Cook, and Canning: High Pressure, are two distinct settings. IDK which one to use.

PF-TEK Pots:

How do I find a good pot do steam-sterilize jars? Can someone link me to an exact make and model pot for steam sterilization that WORKS RELIABLY ? thanks



Any pot with a lid is good enough to steam sanitize.  You cannot sterilize with steam.  So, any pot is good enough to steam cakes.

You want a pressure canner, not a pressure cooker, if you’re going to go that route.  Something designed to pressure can jars of food in, not just a pressure cooker.  All of the TEKs on here are based off of 15 PSI, which you need a canner to get to.

You’re asking the same questions over and over, I feel like you’re not reading the responses you’re getting.



Pressure cookers will get to 15 psi, the only difference between a cooker and a canner is size
The reason a canner is needed is simply due to size and water , a pressure cooker doesn't hold enough water long enough to trust canning with , I believe the name switch starts at a 16 qt vessel


--------------------
It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn
I'm tired do me a favor

I'M A MEMBER FIRST, TC WHEN NEEDED AND MOD WHEN I HAVE TO BE !!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Archespore]
    #29481433 -

Yes but using what I have, what setting exactly should I use? Canning: high Pressure? with 15psi valve? thanks :smile:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HydroShroom24] * 1
    #29481445 -

For pf Tek , if you can use 15 PS1 use that lol


--------------------
It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn
I'm tired do me a favor

I'M A MEMBER FIRST, TC WHEN NEEDED AND MOD WHEN I HAVE TO BE !!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #29481457 -

cronicr said:
Mr Piggy said:
HydroShroom24 said:
Cooking: Pressure Cook, and Canning: High Pressure, are two distinct settings. IDK which one to use.

PF-TEK Pots:

How do I find a good pot do steam-sterilize jars? Can someone link me to an exact make and model pot for steam sterilization that WORKS RELIABLY ? thanks



Any pot with a lid is good enough to steam sanitize.  You cannot sterilize with steam.  So, any pot is good enough to steam cakes.

You want a pressure canner, not a pressure cooker, if you’re going to go that route.  Something designed to pressure can jars of food in, not just a pressure cooker.  All of the TEKs on here are based off of 15 PSI, which you need a canner to get to.

You’re asking the same questions over and over, I feel like you’re not reading the responses you’re getting.



Pressure cookers will get to 15 psi, the only difference between a cooker and a canner is size
The reason a canner is needed is simply due to size and water , a pressure cooker doesn't hold enough water long enough to trust canning with , I believe the name switch starts at a 16 qt vessel



I haven't ever come across a 15 psi cooker, but I trust they exist :shrug:


--------------------
🅃🄴🄰🄼 🄸🄷🄾🄿


New to cultivation or the shroomery?  Observe the hitchhiker's guide

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery



Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
    #29481509 -

yes but I am trying to determine which setting to use, Canning: High Pressure, i think is correct.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HydroShroom24]
    #29481519 -

You should use the high setting. The other settings are for cooking or different types of canning. Consult the manual that came with your unit and make sure you are using the 15 psi weight.


--------------------
🌾💮🫘🥖

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < First | | 3633 | 3634 | 3635 | 3636 | 3637 | 3638 | 3639 | 3640 | 3641 | 3642 | 3643 | 3644 | 3645 | 3646 | 3647 | 3648 | 3649 | 3650 | 3651 | 3652 | 3653 | | Last >

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   Myyco.com APE Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* quick question, finished colonizing? usefulidiot 1,861 1 04/06/03 06:31 PM
by kindkesey
* Quick Question grateful_head 1,240 2 08/18/01 03:40 PM
by Billyblastoff
* New to the boards, and a quick question to start ! Anonymous 1,846 4 03/11/02 03:18 AM
by 2shrewmen
* Another quick question, double dosage? dr4g0n 1,038 5 12/18/02 08:46 AM
by BladeLSD
* some quick questions about my treasure coasts alf 3,858 19 11/16/01 01:54 AM
by Anonymous
* Quick Question needs quick answer Wheedhead! 1,186 2 01/19/03 09:06 AM
by Wheedhead!
* Re: Two Quick Questions; Somebody Please Help? Gadget 913 3 07/13/00 12:39 PM
by Anonymous
* quick question SuppaFly 1,044 1 09/18/02 04:41 PM
by mickey_rourke

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: DERRAYLD, Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, the_chosen_one, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
1,185,728 topic views. 7 members, 751 guests and 204 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.069 seconds spending 0.046 seconds on 16 queries.