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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
I'm sitting here wishing that there was a grain jar envy thread similar to the Agar envy thread lol.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload] * 1
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Your beard-stroking goaded me into doing it. :shocked:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
I'm sitting here wishing that there was a grain jar envy thread similar to the Agar envy thread lol. Here are my recently shaken jars, most of which I think are looking pretty damn good and almost ready to go to bulk. I'm posting them here to to get some feedback and opinions. I don't think I see any evidence of contamination anywhere. I do think they look a little dry but there's nothing I can do about that now.  How do I know when they're fully ready to send?

First photo is all six. Then there are photos of three jars at a time front and back.  Thanks for your help!







Dry? I would say they look pretty wet, but I wonder what others have to say about that.

If they are actually on the dryer side, that would explain why I often have to wait so long for my jars to be fully colonised.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ambigu] * 1
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they look aight! when did you spawn them? when was the last time you shook them?  what is the temp?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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BeefExtreme said:
they look aight! when did you spawn them? when was the last time you shook them?  what is the temp?


75Β°. These jars were shaken about 3 days ago when they looked to be pretty well focally colonized.

I'm having trouble getting a feel for how many times is too many to shake, when it's too early to shake, and when the jar is fully ready to go.

I think I'm going to shake these one more time and then leave them for 2 to 3 days to see if they really flesh out and then send them.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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Been a bit busy and haven’t been able to check my tub for a bit, surface is quite colonized and mostly sparkly apart from the outer areas, however i’m getting more pins in those dry areas. Should I tape a couple holes or give it a good mist so I can get that even sparkle, or just LITFA:shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: toadking] * 2
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litfa


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 4
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i used to be a litfa guy but it just so depends on if my furnace is raging or not. 

if its nosebleed winter, i now say you should be ready with the mist but only to equalize the little edges that seem to get dryer than the center. 

to this day there is still no perfect tub design for any environment. intuition cannot be tek'ed.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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BeefExtreme said:
i used to be a litfa guy but it just so depends on if my furnace is raging or not. 

if its nosebleed winter, i now say you should be ready with the mist but only to equalize the little edges that seem to get dryer than the center. 

to this day there is still no perfect tub design for any environment. intuition cannot be tek'ed.


Well said. My environment changed hard when I moved, and now I require a space heater in my grow area, which has been a bit humbling bc I've had to strategize with that taken into account.

It keeps this hobby fun anyway.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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How is my rye looking? Too wet, too dry, or just right? This is straight out of PC (after it had cooled down)

Edited by shroomerhumor (01/31/26 10:01 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: shroomerhumor] * 2
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In my humble opinion it looks wet and I see more burst grains that I would want. It looks like some of the grains are pressed against the glass with water around it. 

I'm not sure what growing with that would be like. I bought a bag once that was really wet, it wouldn't colonize all the way and there was contam when I spawned it. Of course, it could have been improperly PC'ed but the wetness played a part.

What was your process?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hidingbush] * 2
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Sometimes when a jar is a little wet, you can give it a shake to help redistribute some of the moisture and get rid of wet spots :mushroom2: if there's still wet spots a couple hours after shaking it, then there's excess moisture and you'll have to zero in on the grain prep next time.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: shroomerhumor] * 5
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shroomerhumor said:

How is my rye looking? Too wet, too dry, or just right? This is straight out of PC (after it had cooled down)


Shake to distribute the moisture every 12 hours, when the jar looks good, inoculate :rockon:



Damn you AW :oldman:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hidingbush]
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hidingbush said:
In my humble opinion it looks wet and I see more burst grains that I would want. It looks like some of the grains are pressed against the glass with water around it. 

I'm not sure what growing with that would be like. I bought a bag once that was really wet, it wouldn't colonize all the way and there was contam when I spawned it. Of course, it could have been improperly PC'ed but the wetness played a part.

What was your process?


Rinsed the grain then brought it to boil in the pot. Immediately lowered the heat and simmered it for about 55 minutes. Then I had a fan blowing on them after straining. Loaded them with the outer dry and PC for 100 minutes at 15PSI.

Thanks for the help guys. Shaking helped redistribute moisture but still a little wet. I believe it should be fine in a few days

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: shroomerhumor] * 1
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Anytime!:cool::mushroom2:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Agar Wedge] * 4
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Pretty proud! After tons of trial and error, my first successful mycelium attempt is present! I have her being dunked currently. My next major struggle, do I follow PF Tek still and do either Verm or Coco choir when she's ready for exposure? Below we have some Cambodians being dunked.



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Agar Plates Gone Through: 46
Agar Plates successfully cultivated: 6

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ladynightshade]
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The last several grain spawns attempts I've tried have resulted in sub-optimal results (~50% bacterial contamination).

I think I've done three different batches recently. I wanted to use no-modified lids, and I was trying yoshi's no rinse/no soak tek. I wasn't using tin foil. I also used the simmer for a few minutes then dry in a colunder method for the last attempt.

I pressure cooked at 17psi+ for 90 mins, and last one 120 mins and I opened the pressure cooker in front of a flow hood, and was doing g2g from seemingly clean spawn (as some of the jars have 0 bacterial using the same master grains).

It seems that yoshi's method should work, and I'm interested in less manual work to get spawn working... so my next attempt is to use foil to help protect the tops of the jars, and to use micropore tape instead of no-mod lids.

Any input on this on how to make the grain spawn more bullet proof? It is really disheartening to get to the end and have the jars go sour.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: zimmey] * 2
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zimmey said:
g2g from seemingly clean spawn


This might be your problem right here.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload] * 1
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Mackload said:
zimmey said:
g2g from seemingly clean spawn


This might be your problem right here.


The agar looked clean that it came from. I know it is possible to have hidden bacteria in the plate... and I hadn't gone to water agar or anything, but there was definitely no obvious problems with the agar that made the master. It colonized very quickly and consistently. It is definitely a possible vector.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: zimmey] * 1
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Maybe pressure cook longer? Are you all gloved up and iso'd? Clean tools for transfers? Got pics of your agar? Proper flow hood? I'd guess it's your spawn or technique more than tinfoil or lid type. Imho :shrug:


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