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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Has anyone else tried using an air duster in a SAB to "purge" the contaminants before doing sterile work?
From this tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29039818 ;

Was just curious. I tried it once with less cleaning/prep beforehand than usual and got no contamination, but it could have been due to other factors (e.g. my technique might have been better that time). Thanks.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Infinite Monkeys said:
What’s the best way to clean a tub that’s gone green after the first flush? I can’t do it outside, so I’m considering using bleach in the shower.



I use soap and a sponge in the shower



Same here. With a nice 70% iso wipe down after dried

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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Splittinghairs said:
tryptkaloids said:
Infinite Monkeys said:
What’s the best way to clean a tub that’s gone green after the first flush? I can’t do it outside, so I’m considering using bleach in the shower.



I use soap and a sponge in the shower



Same here. With a nice 70% iso wipe down after dried



I find alot of my plastic tubs that get contaminated still smell bad after extreme deep cleans and venting and I resort to throwing them away. But I also have been having real nasty bacterial contams lately too.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush] * 4
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funkmastakush said:
Has anyone else tried using an air duster in a SAB to "purge" the contaminants before doing sterile work?
From this tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29039818 ;

Was just curious. I tried it once with less cleaning/prep beforehand than usual and got no contamination, but it could have been due to other factors (e.g. my technique might have been better that time). Thanks.



That does nothing.  The point of a still air box is the still air.  It is not a sterile environment, just one that allows clean work.  You're not going to "Purge" contaminants from that space, that is impossible.

Set box on flat clean surface with work materials inside of it.  Wait 20-30 mins for all air to settle.  Work with steady intention.

Forget any purges or air cleaners or chems sworn to make the experience better.  Your careful technique is what makes it clean.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush] * 1
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funkmastakush said:
Splittinghairs said:
tryptkaloids said:
Infinite Monkeys said:
What’s the best way to clean a tub that’s gone green after the first flush? I can’t do it outside, so I’m considering using bleach in the shower.



I use soap and a sponge in the shower



Same here. With a nice 70% iso wipe down after dried



I find alot of my plastic tubs that get contaminated still smell bad after extreme deep cleans and venting and I resort to throwing them away. But I also have been having real nasty bacterial contams lately too.



Some of my tubs are pretty cruddy looking. Caked-on spores and whatnot. They are not the source of contamination, especially not bacterial. That shit is getting in upstream somewhere.

Remember, this is a species that grows on cow shit. That 4-stomach pasteurization only lasts but so long before you have a nasty, rotting, runny, smelly cowpie in the field. You'll still find little flushes on them.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 1
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Than you, Mr. Piggy and B Traven for the insight.

I figured the air duster in the SAB idea may have been a bit overzealous.

And good point, I may start keeping tubs even if there is a smell. One tub I had had a disgusting contamination and it smelled so horrible that I needed to toss it. Luckily they were just a few cheap shoeboxes, but I do hate wasting plastic.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush]
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Was usual results of sendng an unfully colonizd plate 2 grain?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush]
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How to cook canary seed correctly? How long should it be boiled? Does it need to be soaked?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: divineverdance]
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divineverdance said:
Was usual results of sendng an unfully colonizd plate 2 grain?



I looked this up recently. I believe so long as the uncolonized portions are not contaminated and you use good sterile technique, it should be fine. May be more secure to wait until the plate is fully colonized?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush]
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(Jeepers Peepers) Jamaican crossed with PP Envy. my first tub.

Greetings, I'm starting to do my best to experiment and learn. I have a 3x3x6 grow tent with an oil filled heater a variable PC fan capable pf 50-90cfm, and temp control at 70-76F.
I have holes drilled and in this tub, 3lbspawn too 5lb sub, removed tape and pout on FAE tape 3 days ago, I have also cracked the lid half an inch for a couple of nights, it seemed to wet and I read when it evaps it trippers pins.
I don't see any hyphal knots, or pins, or primordia and it doesn't look close to fruiting, but it does. Ive read about fruiting before 100% colonized. figured cracking it and FAE tape wouldn't hurt them.
Now I just have it barely cracked so it stayed condensated walls.
What percentage is this block colonized? It smells like earth not sweet or sour. Is it stalled, or does this look right for 26 days?
What are my next steps? Any observations or tips?
Anything helps I'm just learning. I have two other tubs i may post about with different strains. I'm in need of guidance.
Thank you for any insight or comments.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
Yes except horse manure doesn't need verm , cow manure will benefit from verm as it's very dense on its own , the only money saved is the money on coir that's it



You should listen to this man ⬆️:super:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid]
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Chabuddy said:





(Jeepers Peepers) Jamaican crossed with PP Envy. my first tub.

Greetings, I'm starting to do my best to experiment and learn. I have a 3x3x6 grow tent with an oil filled heater a variable PC fan capable pf 50-90cfm, and temp control at 70-76F.
I have holes drilled and in this tub, 3lbspawn too 5lb sub, removed tape and pout on FAE tape 3 days ago, I have also cracked the lid half an inch for a couple of nights, it seemed to wet and I read when it evaps it trippers pins.
I don't see any hyphal knots, or pins, or primordia and it doesn't look close to fruiting, but it does. Ive read about fruiting before 100% colonized. figured cracking it and FAE tape wouldn't hurt them.
Now I just have it barely cracked so it stayed condensated walls.
What percentage is this block colonized? It smells like earth not sweet or sour. Is it stalled, or does this look right for 26 days?
What are my next steps? Any observations or tips?
Anything helps I'm just learning. I have two other tubs i may post about with different strains. I'm in need of guidance.
Thank you for any insight or comments.



I'm not a TC and am still learning myself but below are some comments/questions:
-Do not use a grow tent or heater. No need for fancy equipment. An unmodified plastic tote will work, or add some drilled holes, dial in with micropore tape or polyfill. Dialing it in is the hardest part.
-How large are your holes and how many are there? Size of tub?
-We don't differentiate between the "colonizing" and "fruiting" phases. Once spawned to bulk, it is immediately placed into "fruiting conditions" with some minor tweaks later.
-What route did you take to arrive here? Spores to grain? Spores to agar to grain? LC to grain? Was grain PC'd? Type of bulk sub? Grain and bulk sub properly hydrated?

I can't speak about whether your tub is contaminated or not, or the visual analysis of it as I'm still learning that myself. And others correct me if I'm wrong. Welcome to growing my friend!!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 2
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B Traven said:
Some of my tubs are pretty cruddy looking. Caked-on spores and whatnot. They are not the source of contamination, especially not bacterial. That shit is getting in upstream somewhere.

Remember, this is a species that grows on cow shit. That 4-stomach pasteurization only lasts but so long before you have a nasty, rotting, runny, smelly cowpie in the field. You'll still find little flushes on them.



This... ⬆️

Sterility matters when producing cultures and spawn. Fruiting doesn't need anywhere near that amount of detail or cleanliness.

As long as your spawn is clean, you might be surprised what you can get away with.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush]
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funkmastakush said:
Chabuddy said:





(Jeepers Peepers) Jamaican crossed with PP Envy. my first tub.

Greetings, I'm starting to do my best to experiment and learn. I have a 3x3x6 grow tent with an oil filled heater a variable PC fan capable pf 50-90cfm, and temp control at 70-76F.
I have holes drilled and in this tub, 3lbspawn too 5lb sub, removed tape and pout on FAE tape 3 days ago, I have also cracked the lid half an inch for a couple of nights, it seemed to wet and I read when it evaps it trippers pins.
I don't see any hyphal knots, or pins, or primordia and it doesn't look close to fruiting, but it does. Ive read about fruiting before 100% colonized. figured cracking it and FAE tape wouldn't hurt them.
Now I just have it barely cracked so it stayed condensated walls.
What percentage is this block colonized? It smells like earth not sweet or sour. Is it stalled, or does this look right for 26 days?
What are my next steps? Any observations or tips?
Anything helps I'm just learning. I have two other tubs i may post about with different strains. I'm in need of guidance.
Thank you for any insight or comments.



I'm not a TC and am still learning myself but below are some comments/questions:
-Do not use a grow tent or heater. No need for fancy equipment. An unmodified plastic tote will work, or add some drilled holes, dial in with micropore tape or polyfill. Dialing it in is the hardest part.
-How large are your holes and how many are there? Size of tub?
-We don't differentiate between the "colonizing" and "fruiting" phases. Once spawned to bulk, it is immediately placed into "fruiting conditions" with some minor tweaks later.
-What route did you take to arrive here? Spores to grain? Spores to agar to grain? LC to grain? Was grain PC'd? Type of bulk sub? Grain and bulk sub properly hydrated?

I can't speak about whether your tub is contaminated or not, or the visual analysis of it as I'm still learning that myself. And others correct me if I'm wrong. Welcome to growing my friend!!





Thank you for the thoughts and response.
-I have 10 1/2” holes and 2 1” holes higher on ends.
- I just learned FAE means to open the holes to open air no tape of any kind or opening the lid.
would fruiting conditions mean FAE exchange or mean GE general exchange like poly fill or Micropore tape?
To my understanding after mixing sub2spawn it’s beneficial to have micropore or Polyfill on the tub holes.
Can you elaborate on fruiting immediately after sub2spawn?
Do you use a coir casing layer put down right after sub2spawn to protect the grain? Or a casing after fully colonized?
-this is my only tub I made with a block I got fully colonized from a shop while grabbing other supplies. Didn’t know that was done beforehand. I know the bag it came in had a GE patch. Can’t remember if it had an injection patch. Unclear how they inoculated the grain. But it’s milo.
I might be able to call and ask.
- mixed it around dec 7th. It took a couple foot drop a couple weeks after sub2spawn. It slowed it down but It’s still growing. I put tape on about a week ago. I had just tape the whole time previously.

Thank you so much for any insight! Can I see some of your monotub grows? Have you successfully harvested? I I’ve only been growing for a couple months.

Edited by Chabuddy (01/04/26 03:25 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Is this wet rot or just stressed mycelium?




Background- this is my very first attempt at mushroom cultivation ever. I Got a 3lb bag of Milo grain spawn  (I don’t know if I’m allowed to say the name of the vendor on here but it’s a “known name” online) when I first got it I noticed maybe 10 or so husks in the bag where burst open. I inoculated in a commercial Still air box with gloves and a lot of 70% alcohol. I inoculated with 3ML of LC that was fresh from a different recommended vendor, the LC looks clear and clean to the eye, I will be purchasing agar plates just to make sure.

First picture was 8pm 4 days after inoculation, 2nd picture is at 5am the next morning. The bag did accidentally get dropped night of day 3 when I was transferring the bag to the indoor greenhouse tent. Temps kept between 72-76

There is visible orange liquid on day 4 but it didn’t visually look as much on day 5. When handling the bags I have washed my hands and I’m only grabbing it by the plastic part and gently lifting in order to not disturb (more than I already have)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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Thanks for the feedback, Tryp & B.

That all makes perfect sense. I don't like the stumps either. I was wondering about the difference in recoup time. You answered that, too. Perfect!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: InfidelGI]
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InfidelGI said:
Is this wet rot or just stressed mycelium?




Background- this is my very first attempt at mushroom cultivation ever. I Got a 3lb bag of Milo grain spawn  (I don’t know if I’m allowed to say the name of the vendor on here but it’s a “known name” online) when I first got it I noticed maybe 10 or so husks in the bag where burst open. I inoculated in a commercial Still air box with gloves and a lot of 70% alcohol. I inoculated with 3ML of LC that was fresh from a different recommended vendor, the LC looks clear and clean to the eye, I will be purchasing agar plates just to make sure.

First picture was 8pm 4 days after inoculation, 2nd picture is at 5am the next morning. The bag did accidentally get dropped night of day 3 when I was transferring the bag to the indoor greenhouse tent. Temps kept between 72-76

There is visible orange liquid on day 4 but it didn’t visually look as much on day 5. When handling the bags I have washed my hands and I’m only grabbing it by the plastic part and gently lifting in order to not disturb (more than I already have)



That looks contaminated to me. I would prep grain yourself and try not to by online.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: InfidelGI]
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InfidelGI said:
Is this wet rot or just stressed mycelium?




Background- this is my very first attempt at mushroom cultivation ever. I Got a 3lb bag of Milo grain spawn  (I don’t know if I’m allowed to say the name of the vendor on here but it’s a “known name” online) when I first got it I noticed maybe 10 or so husks in the bag where burst open. I inoculated in a commercial Still air box with gloves and a lot of 70% alcohol. I inoculated with 3ML of LC that was fresh from a different recommended vendor, the LC looks clear and clean to the eye, I will be purchasing agar plates just to make sure.

First picture was 8pm 4 days after inoculation, 2nd picture is at 5am the next morning. The bag did accidentally get dropped night of day 3 when I was transferring the bag to the indoor greenhouse tent. Temps kept between 72-76

There is visible orange liquid on day 4 but it didn’t visually look as much on day 5. When handling the bags I have washed my hands and I’m only grabbing it by the plastic part and gently lifting in order to not disturb (more than I already have)



That’s bacterial.  I’m really curious what a “commercial sab” is considering a flipped over clear tub with arm holes is more effective than anything I’ve seen sold from a vendor (including their bullshit not real “flow hoods.”)

Alcohol does not sterilize, it is only a sanitizing agent.  You need to flame sterilize a needle you plan on injecting anything with.

Can you post a pic of your sab?

Honestly if you want to get into grain you need to start prepping it yourself and you need to work with agar.  All of that is very simple to do and will save you the headache of faulty vendor grain and lc.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Along with what Phggy said,

You said “SAB” and a lot of iso.

Did you put a towel down with soapy water and mist the walls with soapy water?

Grain prep really is the easiest part of this hobby. You can even get away with Broke Boi Tek (albeit riskier than grain prep Teks here) and still have way better success than buying someone else’s crap. Hell, almost everyone has an Instapot and that will still do wonders for grains if you use it properly and let it run longer.

Nothing good ever comes from buying premade grains or agar. So easy and rewarding.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 4
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Splittinghairs said:
Did you put a towel down with soapy water and mist the walls with soapy water?




That's completely unnecessary, running a box dry is perfectly fine and a lot of TCs do it including me.

Splittinghairs said:
You can even get away with Broke Boi Tek



:justno:

Absolutely not, that is garbage and not sufficient.


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Smellyhobbit said:
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