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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: Northerner]
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I miss this stuff so bad..

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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: divineverdance] * 1
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I have definitely noticed the difference of different crystals. I'm a sixty year old deadhead and have tripped for over 45 years. I've been getting Grateful Dead 'family' crystal for the past few years and it's definitely my favorite. It's super clean like Needlepoint, but has a very positive 'vibe' to it. (yeah, sounds dippy hippie, but it's a consistent and definitive difference)

Unfortunately my 'guy' has been MIA for the past few months, and I'm looking for someone new. For now I'm trying growing mushrooms. I just inoculated my first grain bag. I bought an automated 'boomer box' from North Spore and am looking forward to some mushrooms.

Wish me luck guys

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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: GratefulHippie]
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Northerner said:
I reckon the team communication is great in its own way. There's been a series of crystals with modern production techniques from JOR to GG to DS and now up and coming brilliant teams like Epigram. The substance is so ineffable, it's nice to talk about comparison experiences even if it is all a little woo imo. It's a golden era of LSD.


don't think it's woo at all... only if you have a huge plank on your forehead and on every neuron :laugh:


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: epilectric]
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Back at you huge plank on forehead and every neuron guy. :tongue2:


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: epilectric]
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yes, now this is again very subjective and i'm not claiming anything . but i scrolled through many reddit reports, and there seems to be at least some consensus : DS 3.0 is the cleanest feeling with the least body load and visuals . GG is often mentioned with bodyload and strong visuals - something reminiscent of the swiss liquid i mentioned so very often (but they also say there are lots of different GGs around with different purity levels, some even claim GG mixed a couple of different crystals and laid them on tabs - again a possible explanation for more body load and visuals but i'm purely hypothesizing here of course)

Northerner can't you do a low dose comparison of say 100ug DS 3.0 vs 100ug of eggshell GG, i remember you mentioned you have 80% purity stuff..? i'm certain the two would hit at least my neurons differently. sure when you take a high dose like you usually do it's all intense and hard to distinguish, but maybe a 100ug dose comparison would give better clues.

i prefer the very pure LSD with less bodyload and visuals . and a low dose of that . thx


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: epilectric] * 1
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Yeah I've gotna bunch of different batches of LSD. I find the trips very subjective depending on my sleep, emotional and general health state, plus the X factor, at the time I dose. I've been going between DS3, GG eggshell, Swiss Monica and now Epigraph Owsley. I haven't been able to recreate anything about any of them from experience to experience. They've all melted me, provided cold neutral trips, created joyous emotional experiences, given broken fractal visual experiences, and more, depending on the day.

I've only taken the Epigraph crystal 3 times, but all the others I've taken a whole bunch of times. I'm just not finding a character to any of them specifically, I find particular character as to what my experiences are certain phases and seasons, not particular doses.

If I compare the first time I took them to each other I could start to make conclusions. But then when I start making averages over time I don't get the same result as those initial impressions. It all seems rather alike. I've even chased initial impressions but not managed to get the same again.

I'm considering taking a break from the acid for a good while, I've eaten quite a bunch in the last couple of years. Should be good to step back, make some room for perspective. Been going through a whole bunch of other stuff as well not related, it's good to regroup and ground.


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: Northerner]
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it's not about different characters, vibes or energies... or comparing high purity batches

just perceived receptor activity, things like body load and visuals, that are at least experientially quantifiable

many people agree that purer lsd feels mentally clearer and physically cleaner and i don't see any woo in that assumption :shrug:


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: epilectric]
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go do a blind test of 80% purity vs 99%

you might have entity contact on the first, and more crisp visuals on the latter


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: epilectric] * 1
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I've done blind tests before years ago, this is what lead to me thinking what i do, but not since I've had the eggshell. I've been crushed with body load from crystals that have made me soar with light on other experiences, too.

I'm past trying to tell other people that their perception about this stuff is probably just their perception, and that it's really just one thing and potential impurities are infinitesimally small and not known to have any effect. Really, it's just fine. I understand how real it all seems to some people. It used to seem real to me too. Maybe one day it'll seem real to me again as well.


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: Northerner]
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i hope so, because then we can start a discussion again instead of being shut off with a big plankk :laugh:


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: epilectric] * 1
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This has always been a highly contested subject. Me not participating won't change the nature of it plank guy.


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: Northerner]
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:laugh:


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: heatlessbbq] * 2
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I dunno the differences but I'm willing to sample for science 🧐

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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: divineverdance]
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My dude had a sales pitch about ds3.0 and now its just fire tabs whenever asked about xtal. So idk

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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: GratefulHippie]
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Goodluck on the bag friendo

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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: epilectric] * 4
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epilectric said:
it's not about different characters, vibes or energies... or comparing high purity batches

just perceived receptor activity, things like body load and visuals, that are at least experientially quantifiable

many people agree that purer lsd feels mentally clearer and physically cleaner and i don't see any woo in that assumption :shrug:



I have a few different prints of LSD, some from Europe, some from Canada, including DS wherever that is from and I cannot tell them apart in blind test. Nor can I tell them from 1p-lsd or ALD-52 either. I can only judge the potency 

It's been proven that expectancy is massive in the LSD experience and people attribute different characteristics to the trip based on the color or the lsd blotter or pill. I'm sure it's the same thing with the type of crystal. You and your friends all getting bodyload from a batch I will accept if you take it blind and don't know what type you took. No one really knows what bodyload is, but no way is it batch dependent. Otherwise, everyone all across the internet would all report one batch as having bodyload, that never happens.

I used to get stomach issues from LSD when I was a kid, all the time, and that never ever happens now, on any LSD. Did Picard make shitty LSD in 1990 or was it was because I was a hormonal teenager with a different constitution?

All my experiments have determined this different crystals thing isn't true, doses vary widely in microgram count, but that's it. I don't care what people on reddit say, I don't care about the consensus of your friends, blind test it.

No one says this stuff about any other chemical, like if you get stomach ache on 4-act-dmt you wouldn't assume it was because it was 90 percent pure. All LSD can potentially cause side effects, even pure sandoz LSD, when you look at the testing in the 50s, body load was reported then, it seems silly to blame the quality of the crystal for a side effect that happens with pharmaceutical LSD. Side effects sometimes happen, and sometimes they don't, its like drinking alcohol sometimes you get sick and puke, it wasn't poorly distilled, you didn't eat first or drank it too fast etc. Same with LSD.

At woodstock they announced over the PA system to not take the brown acid, that it was bad acid and would give you a bad trip. But there is no such thing as bad acid that gives you a bad trip, any lsd can do that. People had bad trips because they said the brown LSD was bad and that got in their heads. It wasn't poorly made at all. As soon as one of your friends reported bodyload (or other side effects) all of all sudden you all started getting it. But I can look up the initial LSD clinical trials and find all those same side effects reported.

Blind test it, convince yourself

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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: Mysterio]
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Mysterio said:
I used to get stomach issues from LSD when I was a kid, all the time, and that never ever happens now, on any LSD. Did Picard make shitty LSD in 1990 or was it was because I was a hormonal teenager with a different constitution?



i reckon the stomach issues in the 90s might have had to do with lower purity, yes

all the crystals you have now are high purity, so no bodyload and no difference between them. including 1p-lsd .

ALD-52 is obviously different than LSD, that is documented. so if you don't notice any difference there, you're probably not as sensitive as others. and that says more about you than about the compounds.


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: s240779] * 1
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"You can tell pure acid from the bodyload and the comedown - on DS 3.0 acid - 99.15% pure (they sacrificed yield for purity) its so different to ordinary acid that it qualifies as a different drug."

Ismene2, 2025-11-16, https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/nick-sand-and-tim-scully-lsd-chemists-of-the-60s-comment-about-lsd-purity.943520/post-16348213


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Northerner said:
I agree psilocybin is smokable though.

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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: Mysterio]
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Mysterio said:
At woodstock they announced over the PA system to not take the brown acid, that it was bad acid and would give you a bad trip. But there is no such thing as bad acid that gives you a bad trip, any lsd can do that.


DOM and other early RCs were around back then.

The first DOM tabs were laid at 20mg.  I had some 5mg tabs about a decade ago.  2.5mg was plenty.

Point being, research chemicals aren't anything new so there definitely could have been 'bad acid' even in the '60s and '70s.

But I agree with the rest of your post.


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Re: Types of LSD ~ Difference between LSD-25, needlepoint, white fluff [Re: epilectric]
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epilectric said:
Mysterio said:
I used to get stomach issues from LSD when I was a kid, all the time, and that never ever happens now, on any LSD. Did Picard make shitty LSD in 1990 or was it was because I was a hormonal teenager with a different constitution?



i reckon the stomach issues in the 90s might have had to do with lower purity, yes

all the crystals you have now are high purity, so no bodyload and no difference between them. including 1p-lsd .


Nausea is a well-known and frequently reported potential side effect of LSD (like most other serotonergic drugs), it has nothing to do with purity and everything to do with the fact that 95% of the bodies serotonin is produced and used  outside of the brain (primarily in the gut) and it plays a critical role in regulating nausea and emesis.

Just take a look at pretty much any of the studies on LSD; nausea and body load are often reported and it’s not because the studies used acid with lower purity..

Acute adverse effects up to 10–24 h after LSD administration included difficulty concentrating, headache, dizziness, lack of appetite, dry mouth, nausea, imbalance, and feeling exhausted.
https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201786

Nausea, headaches, and anxiety were commonly reported acute AEs across diagnoses and compounds.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/02698811221116926

Forty-three percent of the subjects receiving 100-225 micrograms of the drug, reported feeling nauseated
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00223980.1955.9916156


Other symptoms point to parasympathetic stimulation: diaphoresis and salivation are frequent, nausea may occur, emesis is exceptional, and flushing of the face is more frequent than paleness (see Table 4).
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6494066/pdf/CNS-14-295.pdf


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