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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid]
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I don't soak or rinse grains. I boil until hydrated.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 1
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LotKid said:
I don't soak or rinse grains. I boil until hydrated.


Me too , I use wheat it's super simple and forgiving


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
LotKid said:
I don't soak or rinse grains. I boil until hydrated.


Me too , I use wheat it's super simple and forgiving


I always end up with half burst wheat grains and half undercooked if I don't soak. I even stir it every 10ish mins. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I'd love not having to soak.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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Groovy.  Wheat is the grain of the topic at the moment.  I dont mind rinsing tho.  Thats not bad.  From what I gather it's just for the sake of having less bio build up or something afterwards and the grains are easier to break apart for the shake less clumping. 

Less bran residue or what ever on the jars/pc. Idk.



You guys arnt worryng bout all that either?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Groovy.  Wheat is the grain of the topic at the moment.  I dont mind rinsing tho.  Thats not bad.  From what I gather it's just for the sake of having less bio build up or something afterwards and the grains are easier to break apart for the shake less clumping. 

Less bran residue or what ever on the jars/pc. Idk.



You guys arnt worryng bout all that either?


Yeah, i have no idea what all this is about.

Unless whoever said it was getting some fucked up grains. :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 1
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Mmmm wheat.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Okay, wheat lovers out there.

All I really need to do is same thing I used to do as a chef when I cooked with the stuff right?

I'm looking to get this done quickly.so big pot. Add wheat.  rolling boil. 

somewhere between 15 and 25 minutes. checking every 10 or 12 minutes for proper hydration?

Easypeasy?




And if I am too busy. Boiling hot water. pour over wheat.  steep for ??? 18-24hr?


Too much work.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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callmehippie said:
AZ Starman2112 said:
callmehippie said:
Okay, wheat lovers out there.

All I really need to do is same thing I used to do as a chef when I cooked with the stuff right?

I'm looking to get this done quickly.so big pot. Add wheat.  rolling boil. 

somewhere between 15 and 25 minutes. checking every 10 or 12 minutes for proper hydration?

Easypeasy?




And if I am too busy. Boiling hot water. pour over wheat.  steep for ??? 18-24hr?


Don’t forget to soak for about 12-15 hours and rinse that shit clean before you boil. And not a rolling boil. More of a simmer. Taste for doneness. Firm on the outside, soft on the inside. It’ll pop like a berry or a boba pearl.



I thinkor thought o read here that the 12 to 15 hour or 18-hour soak is outdated and no longer necessary. Anybody else have any thoughts on this?  I definitely don't want to have to waste 12 to 18 hours if I don't have to.


Fur sure the rinse though.



I soak rye and wheat overnight, but only because it shortens the boil time to about 10ish minutes, and lets me get them drying first thing in the morning. But it doesn't give me a better hydrated grain. I just boil rye until I see a few burst grains and drain/cool. Soaking saves boil time, but isn't needed at all.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 1
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catnip40 said:
Ur not supposed to talk about the top secret gerbil tek, it's origin, or implications. . .





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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hasn't been 24 hours yet but..

bump.

Please dont be mad for the early bump. Im just trying  to get these done ASAP.


Can I sterilize my PP5s in the oven like glass? And if so what exactly should I do?

I'm trying to keep them free from moisture so I can "immediately" use them for pouring


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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you cannot put plastic in the oven. it will melt. steam sterilization only


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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PP5 is not oven safe. They will likely melt or possibly catch fire.

A little moisture, especially moisture that has been sterilized is a non issue.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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How much does a moderately bacterial spawn hurt a grow?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Too slow: posting any way.


Dry heat sterilization temps start at 160c with long exposure times. Steam sterilization temps are 120c for 15 to 30 minutes.

PP5 containers melt at 160c and start deforming just below that. So they won't hold up to a long dry heat of sufficient temperature to sterilize. The clear autoclavable plates start to fail at 125c, so they are even more sensitive to dry heat sterilization.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phony Phone] * 4
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Phony Phone said:
How much does a moderately bacterial spawn hurt a grow?


How long is a piece of string?

Sorry, it could be anything from total failures to some success with a lot of misshapen weirdos in between.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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callmehippie said:
Okay, wheat lovers out there.

All I really need to do is same thing I used to do as a chef when I cooked with the stuff right?

I'm looking to get this done quickly.so big pot. Add wheat.  rolling boil. 

somewhere between 15 and 25 minutes. checking every 10 or 12 minutes for proper hydration?

Easypeasy?




And if I am too busy. Boiling hot water. pour over wheat.  steep for ??? 18-24hr?


I boil wheat for like 30-45m


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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Alright. Glad I asked.
Kind of had a feeling those were going to be the answers. Pc it is


Thanks party peeps



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 1NFIN8] * 1
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1NFIN8 said:
dinosaurs said:
catnip40 said:
Ur not supposed to talk about the top secret gerbil tek, it's origin, or implications. . .



what about caterpillar tek?  I have literal mason jars full of black swallowtail and monarch frass (shit) that I kept because at the very least it must be a great fertilizer.


Butterflies shit?


the caterpillars do like crazy.  basically little machines that convert plants into shit with butterflies being a side-product :smile:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 1
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LotKid said:
catnip40 said:
Ur not supposed to talk about the top secret gerbil tek, it's origin, or implications. . .





Keep it up and you might single handedly destroy ai's source material!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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ReverendMyc said:
Phony Phone said:
How much does a moderately bacterial spawn hurt a grow?


How long is a piece of string?

Sorry, it could be anything from total failures to some success with a lot of misshapen weirdos in between.


I just read The Restaurant at The End of the Shroomery post. The don't dump it section is certainly inspirational.


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