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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23] * 1
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Mushrooms dont make sense. You could find good clone cultures from later flushes, and no clone is guaranteed.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23]
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If you want bigger fruits, clone single fruits from the first flush rather than clusters.

It's still not a guarantee.  Because it's not like cloning plants, there will still be a lot of genetic variability in a single mushroom.

Unless you're starting from an isolate.  But then there's no reason to clone.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha] * 1
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boxtrotalpha said:
ThurmanMurman said:
tryptkaloids said:
Sounds like a spawn issue


Indeed it does, but as far as I can tell, the spawn is good. Fast colonization, great recovery after a shake, and I even give it a final shake and invert the jar after 24hr to ensure the colony has bounced back well enough to remain solid. Im not saying it's  not the spawn, but I lack the skills to recognize it if it is.


Whats with the inverted jars? I've seen that a few times but not a reason behind it. Rookie minds need to know (me, I'm the rookie mind)


A TC told me if ya give a final shake once 100% colonized and then flip the jar 24hrs later, the colony should have recovered well enough to keep the grain a single solid mass. If not, you're probably bacterial.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Ahh, that makes some sense. Added to the database. Probably have use for that at some point. Lord knows I grow some sketchy jars


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Mushrooms dont make sense. You could find good clone cultures from later flushes, and no clone is guaranteed.


XD

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
If you want bigger fruits, clone single fruits from the first flush rather than clusters.

It's still not a guarantee.  Because it's not like cloning plants, there will still be a lot of genetic variability in a single mushroom.

Unless you're starting from an isolate.  But then there's no reason to clone.


Ja, cloning singles hasn't worked that great for me, but I see your logic tnx.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23] * 2
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Cloning is a process, it's not just a matter of selecting a fruit = $$$$

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Mushrooms dont make sense. You could find good clone cultures from later flushes, and no clone is guaranteed.


Thats why i like cultivating mushrooms, nothing makes sense.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ogelite] * 4
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Apart from patience, mushrooms have taught me to manage my expectations


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ogelite]
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what about this one?

If the mycelium dont colonize fast, looks like the rice start to rot or smth or is it too wet or idk.
Using broke boi tek.

what you suggest ?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dala] * 1
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dont get me started on clone collapse


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23]
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koma23 said:
tree frog said:
If you want bigger fruits, clone single fruits from the first flush rather than clusters.

It's still not a guarantee.  Because it's not like cloning plants, there will still be a lot of genetic variability in a single mushroom.

Unless you're starting from an isolate.  But then there's no reason to clone.


Ja, cloning singles hasn't worked that great for me, but I see your logic tnx.


Yeah, it's not generally recommended.  Cluster clones tend to give better coverage and yield.

The lack of guarantee is why I take multiples from grows I like.

Gnats got this tray unfortunately.  But I took eighteen samples between this cluster and another one.  The best six of those were cabin sequestered and taken to grain.  One of the six jars went green.  The other five are in fruiting.

My two favorites will go into long term storage.



A good balance of speed, good fruit size and morphology, and cluster density.  That's what I prefer in clone candidates.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 2
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Tell us about clone collapse Catnip40.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40]
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catnip40 said:
dont get me started on clone collapse


What's clone collapse?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 1
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catnip40 said:
dont get me started on clone collapse


Cmon man don't leave us hanging like that. Story time uncle catnip.

Or do a separate write up so this can stay true to the cause. That might be smarter. Also remember some of us are kinda dumb. Layman's talk not science hippy please


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dala] * 3
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Dala said:
Apart from patience, mushrooms have taught me to manage my expectations


:cantarguewiththat:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ogelite]
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ogelite said:


what about this one?

If the mycelium dont colonize fast, looks like the rice start to rot or smth or is it too wet or idk.
Using broke boi tek.

what you suggest ?


Did you use spores to rice?

Sterilized rice won't go bad just because, you introduced the contamination.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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mushboy said:
AZ Starman2112 said:




i actually want to see that packing peanut esque texture to the inside of the fruits.

i have zero proof or anything at all but for me? packing peanut stipes = tripping my face off.


Yup, it’s got a different texture for sure. Packing peanut describes it well. The outsides are cracker dry, the insides dry, but spongy soft. Smells mushrooms for sure. I guess as the saying goes if it walks like, looks like abd quacks like a duck, then it’s probably a duck. Looking forward to trying these!


tryptkaloids said:
Bruising fam


Thanks for your fast reply as always!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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That is definitely trash.
DERRAYLD said:
ogelite said:


what about this one?

If the mycelium dont colonize fast, looks like the rice start to rot or smth or is it too wet or idk.
Using broke boi tek.

what you suggest ?


Did you use spores to rice?


That is definitely trash.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said:
ogelite said:


what about this one?

If the mycelium dont colonize fast, looks like the rice start to rot or smth or is it too wet or idk.
Using broke boi tek.

what you suggest ?


Did you use spores to rice?

Sterilized rice won't go bad just because, you introduced the contamination.


No mate i use LC.

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