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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: oghost] * 2
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oghost said:
boxtrotalpha said:
oghost said:
boxtrotalpha said:
The mycelium you're after grows in a pretty orderly fashion and what you've got there seems to be all over the place :sad:



Even if it's growing from the center out? I thought most of those pictures of nice consistent round growth is growing outward from where it was inoculated. Do you still expect to see that when injecting LC in various spots in the middle?



In my experience at least yes. It will squirm out in a fairly orderly manner. Lots of straight lines. If they start going wonky and crossing each other its a bad sign

This was a couple days after a shake and came through the middle




Gah, thanks. Wasted so much time and energy on bags and LC, including trying multiple different strains from different vendors. I had maybe 1/30 grow like the picture despite trying to be obsessively sterile in the SAB.

Is going from LC->grain really this bad as a rule or is it more likely I'm doing something else wrong that might carry over into agar? Is vendor LC bacterial contam -that- prevalent?



Even lc i make myself i struggle to trust


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
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After you know what you're doing, take a break 
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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But agar you can see everything on your innoculant.

I cant id shit in an lc


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: oghost] * 1
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oghost said:
boxtrotalpha said:
oghost said:
boxtrotalpha said:
The mycelium you're after grows in a pretty orderly fashion and what you've got there seems to be all over the place :sad:



Even if it's growing from the center out? I thought most of those pictures of nice consistent round growth is growing outward from where it was inoculated. Do you still expect to see that when injecting LC in various spots in the middle?



In my experience at least yes. It will squirm out in a fairly orderly manner. Lots of straight lines. If they start going wonky and crossing each other its a bad sign

This was a couple days after a shake and came through the middle




Gah, thanks. Wasted so much time and energy on bags and LC, including trying multiple different strains from different vendors. I had maybe 1/30 grow like the picture despite trying to be obsessively sterile in the SAB.

Is going from LC->grain really this bad as a rule or is it more likely I'm doing something else wrong that might carry over into agar? Is vendor LC bacterial contam -that- prevalent?



The one thing I have learned from all the great people here is that AGAR is king. Take the time learn it and take those LC syringes to plates first. After good clean growth slice them up and send them to grain.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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Quote:
callmehippie said: I have absolutely no experience at all using those cameras. How complicated are they to figure out?



It's not rocket surgery.

Lots of videos on YouTube. Search the camera make and model and "start guide" or things like that.

There's a lot of similarities betwee all Canon DLSRs / Mirrorless, all Nikon, etc.

I have experience with a few Canon DSLRs, (and a little bit with Canon film SLRs going back 4 decades), but I could pick up any Canon DSLR or Mirroless, even one newer than mine, that I've ever used and use it. Someone who has a Nikon could do the same thing with any Nikon.

Someone with any Canon could probably use any Nikon, any Sony...the controls and features are similar but some of them are called different things and in slightly different places on different makes.

You could put a DSLR / mirrorless camera on "auto" and be up and running quick.

There are other modes, you don't have to use full manual for daily stuff, and I don't usually. I'd look into AV mode (aperture priority) for people / landscape and TV (shutter speed priority) mode for birds / sports / quick motion.

I sometimes do use full manual, or even full manual with auto ISO but no auto-focus while taking pix of plates. Because if you use auto focus on a plate, it focuses on the top of the plate, not down on the mycelium, so the mycelium is a little blurry.

Taking better Petri dish and shroom grow photos
(useful tips even if you're using a phone. Phone can go on manual focus too)

If she inherited a camera worth thousands, honestly, unless it's sentimental I'd sell it and buy a camera worth about 1000 bucks.

I wouldn't walk around with a 4000 dollar camera, and the advantages of a 5000 dollar one over a 5000 dollar one is small degrees of diminishing returns...Though there is a huge difference between a 200 dollar camera and a 1000 dollar camera.


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--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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How full can you pack dehydrator trays?
I have been leaving gaps between each mushroom but have just reached the point where I need to pack them in without leaving gaps. I'm hoping they still dry fine.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Infinite Monkeys] * 2
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Infinite Monkeys said:
How full can you pack dehydrator trays?
I have been leaving gaps between each mushroom but have just reached the point where I need to pack them in without leaving gaps. I'm hoping they still dry fine.



You can really pack em in. Don’t worry. I was like this when I started, careful to not let my mushrooms touch on the tray.  Now they are tossed in by the handful. The trays won’t always stack properly, so I wrap them in cling wrap to ensure the hot air makes it to and out the top.

People dehydrate in buckets, which is just a fat mass of fungus all mushed together.

Jam them bastards in there, brother.


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Infinite Monkeys]
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Pack em, it'll be fine as long as you run it long enough to proper dryness.

There's a old hack on here where someone cut the bottom off a 5 gal bucket, placed the bucket on top the dehydrator, and filled it up. Just make sure there's room for the heated air to get through it.

Edit: smelly beat me to it

Edited by Floret (07/15/25 09:35 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Infinite Monkeys]
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You might need to increase time, or break em apart part of the way through, and theyll stick together, but itll be fine.


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
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tryptkaloids said:
What sort of content does everyone like to listen to while working



Kexp
It's usually a good playlist and then I don't really have to think about it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Infinite Monkeys] * 1
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Infinite Monkeys said:
How full can you pack dehydrator trays?
I have been leaving gaps between each mushroom but have just reached the point where I need to pack them in without leaving gaps. I'm hoping they still dry fine.



I've never had an issue with them touching, but I do shuffle things around once or twice during drying.  you can always store some fresh in the fridge while you're drying other ones.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Infinite Monkeys said:
How full can you pack dehydrator trays?
I have been leaving gaps between each mushroom but have just reached the point where I need to pack them in without leaving gaps. I'm hoping they still dry fine.



You can really pack em in. Don’t worry. I was like this when I started, careful to not let my mushrooms touch on the tray.  Now they are tossed in by the handful. The trays won’t always stack properly, so I wrap them in cling wrap to ensure the hot air makes it to and out the top.

People dehydrate in buckets, which is just a fat mass of fungus all mushed together.

Jam them bastards in there, brother.




I don’t even cling wrap I just put a can on the top after  hour or so it shuts right 😂


I got a question tho. Fruits sat in my dehydrator like 72 hours you think they lost any potency? I bet they didn’t loose much but 🤷🏻‍♂️ figured I’d ask yall someone else has surely done it 😂


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher] * 1
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Probably not, but I would run the dehydrator a bit more just to make sure they hadn’t picked up moisture prior to being stored.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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lol no it was running the entire time they are dry. I basically picked 2 then had another 3 to pick then more and I just kept throwing them in 😂


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher] * 1
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misterswisher said:
lol no it was running the entire time they are dry. I basically picked 2 then had another 3 to pick then more and I just kept throwing them in 😂



you have at least a 7 day window after picking them where you can chuck them in the fridge and maintain viability.  store them up and run them all at once so you're not heating your house up in the middle of the summer while no doubt paying for AC to keep it cool.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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misterswisher said:
lol no it was running the entire time they are dry. I basically picked 2 then had another 3 to pick then more and I just kept throwing them in 😂



Ah no worries then. They fine.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
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Yeah, you're golden, they're absolutely fine. We all understand that "concern" though, we've all been there, but the longer you cultivate, the less you'll sweat it.

The alkaloids are pretty resilient, in my experience. I'm sure most of us have had "bendy bois" at some point in our lives that would still launch you into space.

Dinosaurs is right, even running my dehydrator on "fan only" kicks up the heat by a few degrees in the room. Haha.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tubernaut] * 3
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Theres always talk of petency and im always over here like just grow more shruums bruv


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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If they aren’t strong enough, just take more :awesomenod:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 1
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I feel like liners are the solution to this but…

I ended up harvesting my first flush in a shoebox and have tried to mist the surface twice a day since to get the second flush going, but it seems that the best conditions were still on the bottom so I flipped the substrate to allow the bottom pins to grow since the top wasn’t making any fruits.



Is there anything I could do right now for my 8 other shoeboxes or will I just probably have to flip them all as the pins come in?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog]
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Arkyhog said:
oghost said:
Gah, thanks. Wasted so much time and energy on bags and LC, including trying multiple different strains from different vendors. I had maybe 1/30 grow like the picture despite trying to be obsessively sterile in the SAB.

Is going from LC->grain really this bad as a rule or is it more likely I'm doing something else wrong that might carry over into agar? Is vendor LC bacterial contam -that- prevalent?



The one thing I have learned from all the great people here is that AGAR is king. Take the time learn it and take those LC syringes to plates first. After good clean growth slice them up and send them to grain.



Ya, I'm right there with you. Like many I tried the rich man's shortcuts since I'm lazy and I had the dough, only to find that (as with many things) shortcuts come with compromises. Except I'm not actually the compromising type, so now I simply -have- to learn to do it right because life is too damn short to be growing shitty flushes from bacterial spawn. Besides, excuse to buy a toy (flow hood). [Yes, I know that's wildly unnecessary.. but again.. if you have the space and the dough..]

Thanks all for your advice.

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