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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 4
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If you have a print i reccamend not dealing with a syringe and using agar to germinate spores and clean a culture.

But no.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Cheers!

I would like to start with BRF cakes and from what I understand agar to BRF is not optimal?

Cheers


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Swab the print and stick the swab into a BRF cake made without a dry vermiculite top layer. You'll want to do this in a still air box.

Pristine BRF Puck tek


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Cheers :smile:

why does it seem people are against the idea of doing your own spore syringues? too much contam risks?

Cheers


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Any time you add another step to the process you add another contam vector.

Agar to cakes works great if yoy are using a properly filtered lid. The reason standard pf tek doesnt work well with agar is because it calls for syringe holes and a dry verm filter.

If youre going to omit dry verm and inoculate with agar, look into grain jar lid styles


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Should I soak my cake for a 3rd flush? My second flush wasnt nearly as big as the first. Bigger mushrooms but not as many.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: noomer]
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noomer said:
Should I soak my cake for a 3rd flush? My second flush wasnt nearly as big as the first. Bigger mushrooms but not as many.


Totally normal. Up to you!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Water is life


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Edited by tryptkaloids (06/09/25 09:55 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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one more question I guess, how do I know the cake is done done? Just from no more growth? Does the mycelium just die?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: noomer]
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noomer said:
one more question I guess, how do I know the cake is done done? Just from no more growth? Does the mycelium just die?


When it no longer suits your needs production wise or it contams out


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 5
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Smellyhobbit said:
noomer said:
one more question I guess, how do I know the cake is done done? Just from no more growth? Does the mycelium just die?


When it no longer suits your needs production wise or it contams out


I always feel bad treating a sub like it's no longer useful. I wish there was a way for me to let the culture know it did a damn good job and me throwing it in the garbage isn't a reflection of my opinion of it. Sad shit, man.


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Edited by ThurmanMurman (06/10/25 05:29 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 4
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Man I definitely feel that


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 7
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I turn my subs into beautiful compost and it lives on in soil. My garden is gonna be the shit after a decade of filling this pile.

It seems a respectful way to lay them to rest. Also better for the environment and continues to bring value.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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ThurmanMurman said:
Smellyhobbit said:
noomer said:
one more question I guess, how do I know the cake is done done? Just from no more growth? Does the mycelium just die?


When it no longer suits your needs production wise or it contams out


I always feel bad treated a sub like it's no longer useful. I wish there was a way for me to let the culture know it did a damn good job and me throwing it in the garbage isn't a reflection of my opinion of it. Sad shit, man.



Well there  is a re use your spent subs endlessly tek I believe. 

That could be somthin to consider.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 1
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Tropical said:
Cheers :smile:

why does it seem people are against the idea of doing your own spore syringes? too much contam risks?


Yes, that, and not nearly as much control over what you chose (clean / strong / robust / rhizo) from sending spores from a print or swab to agar, then doing one or more successive transfer.

Syringes are somewhere between training wheels on a bike and just caveman tek. Used to be more common but very few experienced growers here use them.

People sell them because they make a lot of money doing it. You don't even have to see spores in a syringe for it to work. You can make 30 to 100 syringes from a heavy print. Syringes can sell for 10 dollars or more.

A lot of sellers add activated charcoal to the syringe to make it look thick with spores, so people who don't know don't feel ripped off when they get a syringe of what looks like water.

For what it's worth, you can use a syringe to go to agar as you would from a print. then do transfers.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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so with that tek : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28649340#28649340

how would I work to transfer from agar agar to the cake? Just put it on top of the cake with no dry verm? Dig a nice little hole and throw it in and cover back?

Cheers


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Tropical said:
so with that tek : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28649340#28649340

how would I work to transfer from agar agar to the cake? Just put it on top of the cake with no dry verm? Dig a nice little hole and throw it in and cover back?

Cheers


BRF teks seems to be for niche usage - agar to grain is general purpose, especially once you have a good culture.

I have a small bucket of rice that has sit idle for quite some time since moving on to millet. :shrug:  I’m sure it will get used eventually for pucks or something.

PF tek wasn’t my style after a couple successful grows. I didn’t plan to keep buying vendor syringes, and after reading comments similar to these I decided that making syringes wasn’t for me.  No big deal, but definitely glad I didn’t buy a bunch of syringes. :lol: Narrowly dodged that one to be honest.

There are a couple teks around for syringe sterilization and liquid inoculation (LI), but that would still require a clean agar culture and once again introduces additional contamination vectors rather than simply pursuing agar to grain.

I like agar to grain. It works really, really well. :awesomenod:

Edit: typo :mushdance:


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Edited by nocap (06/10/25 12:53 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 2
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Tropical said:
so with that tek : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28649340#28649340

how would I work to transfer from agar agar to the cake? Just put it on top of the cake with no dry verm? Dig a nice little hole and throw it in and cover back?

Cheers


It just goes on top of the cake. On the surface it'll grow out kind of like it would on agar, but it'll also grow into it, colonizing the whole cake.

You can fruit it like regular PF (birthed, dunked and rolled) or just take the lid off, put some vermiculite on the top, and give it a spritz. Fruit in a water tub or however you like to fruit PF tek.

Or leave the lid on and let pins form in vitro, which you can clone really easily, if you're after clean clone culture rather than mushrooms.

You definitely need filtered lids. I've done fine with a couple layers of micropore over a few nail holes, but the SFD stickers are probably safer. You can also get away with unmodified plastic lids left very slightly loosened like we do for grain jars.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 4
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nocap said:
BRF teks seems to be for niche usage - agar to grain is general purpose, especially once you have a good culture.


Just so it's not lost here, one of the things the linked tek is great for is getting a good culture from a bacterial one, or from spores that don't want to germinate on agar. It's a pretty easy way to get clones, too, with a little more idea of how they will express than plate pins, since they grow on a more typical fruiting medium and with more space to grow.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 1
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Tropical said:
so with that tek : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28649340#28649340

how would I work to transfer from agar agar to the cake? Just put it on top of the cake with no dry verm? Dig a nice little hole and throw it in and cover back?

Cheers


These were all either spores or agar on brf, I also topped some cubes with field capacity coir and covered them with individual clear baggies.





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