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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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nocap said:
Tropical said:
Hello,

Hope everyone is doing well!

With 1 "normal" spore print (B+ / Golden teacher), how much 10ml syringue can I do?

And with a 10ml syringue, how many cakes can I innocule (wide mouth half pint jar)?

Cheers



Hello!

Most people here probably aren’t making spore syringes. Maybe bought some from vendors along the way… I know I did that.

But once you have prints, then you can swab or scrape a tiny amount onto agar or a brf puck.  No need to mess with creating syringes and additional contamination risks.



Hummmm i'm confused then.

The PF TEK GUIDE https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24179086 states using a syringue / needle, I guess it is with spore syringues? Or it's another wording and I'm mixing up the words?

If there is no need to make a spore syringue, you just scrap a little with an x acto blade (for example) and swab it on the cake? on the surface?

Cheers!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Almost all of us buy them when we want to use them. 

How were you planning on making yours, are you following a TEK or using a clean procedure?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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yea sadly I can't do that.

I would follow this tek : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26011681/fpart/all

But if there is another method that would take less time and less contam risks, I'm all for it.

How should I work from spore prints for PK Tek then? Scratch a little on a blade and spread it on my cake(s)? If yes, at the top? Center?

Cheers


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 1
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Hey guys my first mushroom is ready to be harvested he just tore the veil over night but i all of them are pretty white and a little smaller than expected. Could these be albino B+ or did the vendor mixed up the spores. I used a spore syringe to grain bag. And should i harvest all of them now or just get the biggest one out? And what do you think about the fuzziness on the feed all good or to much from what i saw it should be normal right?
Thanks in advance :wink:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 2
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Tropical said:
yea sadly I can't do that.

I would follow this tek : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26011681/fpart/all

But if there is another method that would take less time and less contam risks, I'm all for it.

How should I work from spore prints for PK Tek then? Scratch a little on a blade and spread it on my cake(s)? If yes, at the top? Center?

Cheers



I think if you have a print and want to do PF Tek the usual way, making syringes as Bod described is a good bet (not from experience but because it seems sound and Bod wrote some great teks). With the usual PF setup, scraping dry spores on top isn't going to work.

You can try BRF pucks without the dry vermiculite layer. You would need to put micropore tape over your lid holes and inoculate in a still air box with swabs from the print, but then you could basically handle them like PF Tek.

Next time you can print directly to a sterile dish (use a wire rack for even less contamination potential), and use sterile water to mix around and aspirate into syringes. There's definitely a tek on that around here somewhere.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I'm about to harvest a strain that doesn't look like has a Veil to rip and indicate when I should harvest. Based on the picture, do you guys think they are ready to harvest? The strain is Burma.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Morning all! So am I fucked here or what?

Yesterday I PC’d 10 grain jars. Did everything my normal way. Literally use this Presto 23 for everything. Mush cult & canning pickles & sauces. Yesterday for some reason the bottom bowed out (pic below). It’s 16 months old. When I opened it, it had only 2/3’rds of a cup of water left in it. Never saw this before, usually I have quite a bit of water left in it. Filled it with the normal 3 quarts of water and then I ran it two hours after venting 10 mins and then reaching 15 psi. Do I toss this pot, or just use it as is, or try and tap it back flat with a block of wood and a rubber mallet? I’ve put sauté pans and skillets back into shape with a block of wood and a rubber mallet, but they aren’t under pressure when in use. So am I fucked here or what?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112]
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Morning all! So am I fucked here or what?

Yesterday I PC’d 10 grain jars. Did everything my normal way. Literally use this Presto 23 for everything. Mush cult & canning pickles & sauces. Yesterday for some reason the bottom bowed out (pic below). It’s 16 months old. When I opened it, it had only 2/3’rds of a cup of water left in it. Never saw this before, usually I have quite a bit of water left in it. Filled it with the normal 3 quarts of water and then I ran it two hours after venting 10 mins and then reaching 15 psi. Do I toss this pot, or just use it as is, or try and tap it back flat with a block of wood and a rubber mallet? I’ve put sauté pans and skillets back into shape with a block of wood and a rubber mallet, but they aren’t under pressure when in use. So am I fucked here or what?





I mean it is a pressure vessel that is kinda a bomb, most people would say to toss it and get a new one.

For future reference, tape a few quarters on top of the stopcock to raise the relief pressure to around 17psi, then you will no longer loose a bunch of water or hear the rocking/hissing at 15psi.

I fell asleep with mine running once and ran it dry and the bottom bowed similar to that, for me, I run it on a gas stove so it still works, if it were on an induction cook top I think it would no longer function or get heated properly without being flat.

That being said, I know the risks, and I still use it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Axman said:
AZ Starman2112 said:
Morning all! So am I fucked here or what?

Yesterday I PC’d 10 grain jars. Did everything my normal way. Literally use this Presto 23 for everything. Mush cult & canning pickles & sauces. Yesterday for some reason the bottom bowed out (pic below). It’s 16 months old. When I opened it, it had only 2/3’rds of a cup of water left in it. Never saw this before, usually I have quite a bit of water left in it. Filled it with the normal 3 quarts of water and then I ran it two hours after venting 10 mins and then reaching 15 psi. Do I toss this pot, or just use it as is, or try and tap it back flat with a block of wood and a rubber mallet? I’ve put sauté pans and skillets back into shape with a block of wood and a rubber mallet, but they aren’t under pressure when in use. So am I fucked here or what?





I mean it is a pressure vessel that is kinda a bomb, most people would say to toss it and get a new one.

For future reference, tape a few quarters on top of the stopcock to raise the relief pressure to around 17psi, then you will no longer loose a bunch of water or hear the rocking/hissing at 15psi.

I fell asleep with mine running once and ran it dry and the bottom bowed similar to that, for me, I run it on a gas stove so it still works, if it were on an induction cook top I think it would no longer function or get heated properly without being flat.

That being said, I know the risks, and I still use it.





Gas stove here too. I’m at sea level, you think 17 psi would be ok?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RasenderRon] * 1
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towerofbabel said:
I'm about to harvest a strain that doesn't look like has a Veil to rip and indicate when I should harvest. Based on the picture, do you guys think they are ready to harvest? The strain is Burma.




Some varieties don't really have proper veils, my suggestion is to give the stipe a light squeeze and harvest when it feels like a marshmallow.

RasenderRon said:


Hey guys my first mushroom is ready to be harvested he just tore the veil over night but i all of them are pretty white and a little smaller than expected. Could these be albino B+ or did the vendor mixed up the spores. I used a spore syringe to grain bag. And should i harvest all of them now or just get the biggest one out? And what do you think about the fuzziness on the feed all good or to much from what i saw it should be normal right?
Thanks in advance :wink:



See the above response, and it is possible that the vendor goofed up or you just have a lighter pheno from B+. I would suggest not going spore to grains, read the Hitchhiker's guide in my signature, that'll help.

You can harvest them all at once or individually as they mature.
Fuzziness is a sign of inadequate FAE.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 1
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Axman said:
I mean it is a pressure vessel that is kinda a bomb, most people would say to toss it and get a new one.

For future reference, tape a few quarters on top of the stopcock to raise the relief pressure to around 17psi, then you will no longer loose a bunch of water or hear the rocking/hissing at 15psi.

I fell asleep with mine running once and ran it dry and the bottom bowed similar to that, for me, I run it on a gas stove so it still works, if it were on an induction cook top I think it would no longer function or get heated properly without being flat.

That being said, I know the risks, and I still use it.





Gas stove here too. I’m at sea level, you think 17 psi would be ok?



Im at 600' above sea level and taped 2 US quarters on top, see this for all your presto 23 concerns and explanations for the weights on the stopcock.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 8
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Your life is worth more than a couple hundred bucks. Throw that shit away

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Ferryman]
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Most underrated comment ever.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BlakoDako]
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how do i know when my grain spawn is truly ready? Should all the white look thick like cheese almost?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i] * 6
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ihansterx4i said:
how do i know when my grain spawn is truly ready? Should all the white look thick like cheese almost?



Post a picture of it in this thread :awesomenod:

Cheese look?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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nocap said:
BlakoDako said:
So if I was going to break up a brf cake, don't mix it with coir? Or just don't expect alot?

I will say between keeping it in a jar form in a monotub. Vs breaking it up. I get double to triple the fruits when I break it up. So I have been trying to see what is working better. Honestly I have 3 setups running.

One is a in a big plastic tub. Kinda sitting over 1" of water. With plastic bags covering half of it during the day. And all of it at night. That one is booming constantly. This is the one in question. Not big flush. But it's continuing. Like. Not ending a flush. So I'm confused.



Exactly. Just don’t expect a whole lot. I got more fruits that way too. Just nowhere near what grain will provide.

The “never ending” flush is primarily a symptom of two things : multispore inoculation coupled with harvesting individual fruits as they become mature. (rather than harvest whole tub at once)

You’re getting successful results though, so that is most important of all. Congrats!!



Awesome. Thank you. I just got 6 jars of brf ready. I am inoculating them now. Exciting. I am using one culture I been cleaning with agar to Inoculate one. And I'm using my first print from my grow! It is cubensis. I'm not gunna say exactly what. Because I'd be lieing. Idk yet. It could be b+, Mazatapec,  or a+. So time will tell here's pic of print. Unfortunately. I had a peice of the cap stay on it. Owell.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Axman said:
AZ Starman2112 said:
Axman said:
I mean it is a pressure vessel that is kinda a bomb, most people would say to toss it and get a new one.

For future reference, tape a few quarters on top of the stopcock to raise the relief pressure to around 17psi, then you will no longer loose a bunch of water or hear the rocking/hissing at 15psi.

I fell asleep with mine running once and ran it dry and the bottom bowed similar to that, for me, I run it on a gas stove so it still works, if it were on an induction cook top I think it would no longer function or get heated properly without being flat.

That being said, I know the risks, and I still use it.





Gas stove here too. I’m at sea level, you think 17 psi would be ok?



Im at 600' above sea level and taped 2 US quarters on top, see this for all your presto 23 concerns and explanations for the weights on the stopcock.



I watched the video and will try using the quarters on my 16 quart but he said he fits 10 jars in there. How do they all fit when they need to not be touching the water?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Harpo67]
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They can be touching the water, just not the bottom of the PC, the Trivet keeps the jars off the bottom. My jars have water halfway up the sides when I PC.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Ferryman] * 1
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Sillysighbean said:
Your life is worth more than a couple hundred bucks. Throw that shit away



Also let me be clear, I'm not advocating for using a warped PC, it is dangerous, throw it out, I'm just saying mine still works :shrug:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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TY. Then why am I see people using bolts to keep the round piece higher up off the bottom of the cooker?


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