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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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This is the first time this happened to me. I have 2 cube jars with "myc piss". Will these still be good to spawn to bulk? I have been waiting for the last few grains to colonize. I just checked on them and noticed a bunch of myc piss. Are these jars fucked?







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Edited by Jrey16 (05/24/25 03:33 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
Puduwoke said:
tree frog said:
Yeah it's just maximum security, I have had some of them fall off.

It's less about doubling up on the SFD, and more about stickers fail.


Thanks for the replies guys. I'm doubling the stickers tomorrow.

I just love the clean look compared to RTV and SFD:shrug: Makes sense they are not as strong though I guess.

Very cheap though so not the end of the world I guess.

Ordering a bunch more soon so I have plenty of backups.

Tha is again everyone for putting my mind to ease:hug:


yeah, the zonos stickers got you covered, no GE, so no contam. One is enough, fo sho



I will put 2 stickers to be on the safe side. We still need to cover with aluminum though right with these filter stickers?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Puduwoke]
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Puduwoke said:
I will put 2 stickers to be on the safe side. We still need to cover with aluminum though right with these filter stickers?


When PC'ing you could do that, but more importantly, remember to loosen the lid or it will pull a vacuum and your lids will deform.


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
― Terry Pratchett


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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I have some suspicious BRF jars:

Jar 1: Can’t tell if these are completely healthy or not, especially the part with the fuzzy myc. Don’t know if it’s from lack of FAE inside or if it’s something else growing on the myc.




Jar 2: There’s a patch of more „thinly“ colonized verm/BRF with these large rhizos, but the rest of the jar is more densely colonized, generally looks rather chaotic though. Also, puffy spots again.




Jar 3: I don’t know, maybe it’s just chaotic growth. But there’s different patches of varying density that irritate me.



Jar 4: Here’s a better example of how these puffy spots look across jars.



Important notes: They took weeks to colonize, because I used only one inoculation point on the outer edge, so maybe time is a factor to consider.
Also, the agar plates I made by streaking spores or squirting dirty syringes also show cobweb-like wispy puffy spots on them.

The syringe I used to inoculate these jars was made with rather faint spore prints (so less spores than ideal).
It’s definitely possible this might have gone wrong.

Most of them are pinning, but not 100% colonized yet.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Puduwoke]
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Puduwoke said:
I will put 2 stickers to be on the safe side. We still need to cover with aluminum though right with these filter stickers?


I've never covered jars in a PC with foil. I think that's old unneeded tek from back when people were figuring this out.

Only thing I use aluminum foil for in this hobby is spore prints.


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--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 3
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I don't cover my jar lids with foil during PC cycles but i do use these. I figure the less heated moisture on my stickers the better.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
Puduwoke said:
I will put 2 stickers to be on the safe side. We still need to cover with aluminum though right with these filter stickers?


When PC'ing you could do that, but more importantly, remember to loosen the lid or it will pull a vacuum and your lids will deform.


Why would they deform when I have a hole for GE already? I'm sure there is plenty of release being able to go thru that hole and not warping the lid? This is something to think about when using unmodded lids only no?

I never left my lids even slightly lose:shrug:

Soeey didn't understand your answer about the foil. Is it still needed when these filter patches? I know I can do it since I been doing it with foil for many years..be nice if it wasn't necessary with the new style of filters though :shrug:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog]
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Arkyhog said:
I don't cover my jar lids with foil during PC cycles but i do use these. I figure the less heated moisture on my stickers the better.




Amazing. I ordered 10 of them right away!

Do not want to talk about how much I payed for shipping though.. :prayer:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Puduwoke]
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Puduwoke said:
Arkyhog said:
I don't cover my jar lids with foil during PC cycles but i do use these. I figure the less heated moisture on my stickers the better.




Amazing. I ordered 10 of them right away!

Do not want to talk about how much I payed for shipping though.. :prayer:


what is it and do we need it?


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>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Puduwoke] * 2
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Puduwoke said:
I will put 2 stickers to be on the safe side. We still need to cover with aluminum though right with these filter stickers?

..... foil. Is it still needed when these filter patches? 


No. Foil not needed.

I use these filters on a 3/8 inch drilled hole in the Mason jar lid.

Once in a while a filter fails from the pressure. Maybe 2 or 3 a year.

It doesn't hurt to use two (one inside the jar, one outside.) But this I got 128 of them for 10 dollars, I haven't even used a quarter of them in 4 years since I started using them.

I tighten the jars before a PC and let them vent though the filters.
https://www.amazon.com/Synthetic-Stickers-Mushroom-Applied-Cultivation/dp/B08P1T1Z1S/&tag=theshro-20


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chris77] * 1
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chris77 said:
Puduwoke said:
Arkyhog said:
I don't cover my jar lids with foil during PC cycles but i do use these. I figure the less heated moisture on my stickers the better.




Amazing. I ordered 10 of them right away!

Do not want to talk about how much I payed for shipping though.. :prayer:


what is it and do we need it?


While I wouldn’t say it’s absolutely necessary, the rubber cover serves as a practical solution for keeping moisture off jar lids during pressure cooker cycles. Previously, I utilized aluminum foil to prevent moisture from reaching my jar lids and to keep my SFD stickers as dry as possible during the 2.5 to 3-hour cycles in a hot, steamy environment. However, I have found that these rubber covers perform significantly better, resulting in only a minimal amount of water on my filter disk after the pressure cooking process. I prefer a clean and organized approach; while reusing foil is an option, I find it much more efficient to fit ten of these covers into an empty jar when not in use. In contrast, managing reused foil often felt like herding cats, which was quite challenging. Make sure you still back your lids off a little before putting the covers on if you do use them. I have been using them for over a year and never had a SFD sticker fail. I do clean my plastic lid with 70% isopropyl alcohol prior to placing my stickers as well. 

Edited by Arkyhog (05/24/25 08:42 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog]
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Why they need to back the lids of slightly?

Isn't the GE hole enough to keep the lids from warping?:shrug:

To late now but will keep that in mind next run. Today I used foil obviously

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Puduwoke]
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I do it to keep some pressure off the stickers. It's like a teapot with the lid down focuses all that pressure on a small little spot. With the lid backed off not as much pressure on my SFD stickers.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog] * 3
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A word of caution on my methods!
Currently, my primary hobby is cultivating mushrooms, specifically growing cubes. Similar to my other interests, which include forging knives, playing golf, scuba diving, and spear fishing, I strive to excel in each of these activities, and I invest time and money in them accordingly. At the moment, mushroom cultivation has taken precedence over my other hobbies, as I am in the process of setting up a dreamer tub to start growing medicinal varieties and what I consider exotic species. I dedicate a significant amount of time to researching and documenting my cultivation techniques. As an aerospace quality engineer, I focus on developing processes that minimize variation, which I believe is key to achieving success. My ultimate goal is to establish a mushroom farm by the time I retire, specializing in gourmet and medicinal varieties, and potentially cubes, if it becomes legal in my state by then.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog] * 1
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Arkyhog said:
I do it to keep some pressure off the stickers. It's like a teapot with the lid down focuses all that pressure on a small little spot. With the lid backed off not as much pressure on my SFD stickers.


Makes sense. Thanks for sharing:hug:

I love this forum:flexin:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 2
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Puduwoke said:
Why would they deform when I have a hole for GE already? I'm sure there is plenty of release being able to go thru that hole and not warping the lid? This is something to think about when using unmodded lids only no?

I never left my lids even slightly lose:shrug:

Soeey didn't understand your answer about the foil. Is it still needed when these filter patches? I know I can do it since I been doing it with foil for many years..be nice if it wasn't necessary with the new style of filters though :shrug:


nektar61 said:
No. Foil not needed.

I use these filters on a 3/8 inch drilled hole in the Mason jar lid.

Once in a while a filter fails from the pressure. Maybe 2 or 3 a year.

It doesn't hurt to use two (one inside the jar, one outside.) But this I got 128 of them for 10 dollars, I haven't even used a quarter of them in 4 years since I started using them.

I tighten the jars before a PC and let them vent though the filters.
https://www.amazon.com/Synthetic-Stickers-Mushroom-Applied-Cultivation/dp/B08P1T1Z1S/&tag=theshro-20



The zonon sticker filter don't allow enough GE, a couple of my lids got warped. I threw them out so no picture, but hey a lot of people use the zonon stickers so I guess it's fine for them, I'm changing to thick filters and RTV. Different strokes for different folks and all that.


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
― Terry Pratchett


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fauchinger]
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If I made tea with fresh fruits and then froze it for later, would the experience still be on par with eating fresh fruits?


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Shine down upon the severed
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
The zonon sticker filter don't allow enough GE, a couple of my lids got warped. I threw them out so no picture, but hey a lot of people use the zonon stickers so I guess it's fine for them, I'm changing to thick filters and RTV. Different strokes for different folks and all that.


I've had issues with this as well, having filters either sucked through the hole in the lid due to vacuum, or blown open due to excess pressure.

They also hold a pretty tight vacuum, should they be siliconed in.

I don't trust them.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 3
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Imo letting the filter take the gas pressure is wrong and makes no sense at all.
zoom in and imagine what happens, the filter is a grid of fibers to hold back spores and particles from the surrounding air (imagine what happens on the surface of such filter during a shake) why would you make it any harder for  the filter by forcing hot steam through it when unscrewing the lid a quarter turn is all you need?
:shrug:


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            j. krishnamurti


>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

Edited by chris77 (05/24/25 09:27 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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ThurmanMurman said:
If I made tea with fresh fruits and then froze it for later, would the experience still be on par with eating fresh fruits?


yes


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>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

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