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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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It’s all real frog hours


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Ribbit.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 3
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I kissed a princess and all I got was a frog face.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Bags are actually great. As long as you buy the Grain and bag and PC it all yourself. Which is mere fractions of the cost of a vendor bag..

and as long If you have the proper equipment like a Flowood or ffu preferably cause it way less complicated.  although a Sab can be used it's just a pain in the ass.


So once you have the proper experience and all the proper equipment and everything. Then I would definitely be using bags over jars.

Simply for the fact that it takes like four or five jars to equal one 5 lb bag so you can get a lot more done and utilize a lot more space in the PC. When using bags.


I guess this is where maybe I am not understanding the grow bag concept though.

Granted I’m still in the newb wasting time with cultures phase and will start agar next go around once I figure out how to get some prints this cycle.

BUT

If I screw up grains then I only lose the grains. Shit happens.

If I screw up a grow bag I’m out a lot more as far as inoculation, grains and now substrate to boot.

Plus that whole project is trash.

If I screw up a grain jar my ratio goes down. I normally get pretty solid results on my jars and go 4 for 4, but I have some B+ that I lost a jar and had to drop my ratios for the two tubs they are in now and they are looking pretty right now. But my whole process wasn’t killed because of whatever mistake I made with that one jar.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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:jumpingfrog:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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Splittinghairs said:
callmehippie said:
Bags are actually great. As long as you buy the Grain and bag and PC it all yourself. Which is mere fractions of the cost of a vendor bag..

and as long If you have the proper equipment like a Flowood or ffu preferably cause it way less complicated.  although a Sab can be used it's just a pain in the ass.


So once you have the proper experience and all the proper equipment and everything. Then I would definitely be using bags over jars.

Simply for the fact that it takes like four or five jars to equal one 5 lb bag so you can get a lot more done and utilize a lot more space in the PC. When using bags.


I guess this is where maybe I am not understanding the grow bag concept though.

Granted I’m still in the newb wasting time with cultures phase and will start agar next go around once I figure out how to get some prints this cycle.

BUT

If I screw up grains then I only lose the grains. Shit happens.

If I screw up a grow bag I’m out a lot more as far as inoculation, grains and now substrate to boot.

Plus that whole project is trash.

If I screw up a grain jar my ratio goes down. I normally get pretty solid results on my jars and go 4 for 4, but I have some B+ that I lost a jar and had to drop my ratios for the two tubs they are in now and they are looking pretty right now. But my whole process wasn’t killed because of whatever mistake I made with that one jar.




It comes with experience you need to learn agar and how to clean up a culture so that you can put that you can inoculate your spawn with that whether it be in a jar or a bag and then you don't have to worry so much about it being a gamble on becoming contaminated and losing so much. That's why bag should be held off until you have a lot more experience.imo.


Also it doesn't matter if you screw up the grains inside a bag or a jar all you do is toss those grains and start over. It's all exactly the same. Meaning if your bag is a little funky then your ratios go down as well. Split the bag up into smaller portions and use less substrate and there you go. exactly the same thing.  You won't be wasting any substrate. Both the bag or  the jar need to fully colonize without contamination before moving on to the next step. Both the bag and the jar can either be top fruited or Spawned A lower ratio If Suspect.

The best thing to do is learn the agar and then you won't be wasting inoculations either. the reason inoculations are wasted are because they are dirty and untested. Therefore it's a gamble on whether or not your spawn will come out clean.


The main thing to remember is you can screw up like 20 something times with your own grain In a bag that you  PC yourself For the same cost as one vendor bought bag that screw up on the first go. just because It may not have been sterilized correctly. Or it could have been contaminated before it made it To you. Or because the culture you're using isn't clean.

Edited by callmehippie (04/01/25 06:48 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Hi!

For the coco bricks (PF cake and then monotub when some experience) is it better to go with :
store1

or

Store 2

or
Store 3

Or even and break those :

Store 4

sorry for the number of links, not sure if all coco bricks are equal?

Cheers!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Bags are also really useful for g2g. Get a 500ml jar of really clean spawn and dump it into one or more PC'd bags. This is the direction I'm hoping to go sometime this year.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 5
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My new avatar is an actual picture of me!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9]
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So if I’m somebody trying to keep my pressure cooker clean and I got a bunch of wood chips that I’m hoping to have Ovoid agar introduced to.
How would I go about cleaning up these pieces of wood without destroying the inside of my pressure cooker? Can I just PC them all in a big bag once they’ve been soaked long enough?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 2
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I like these.

Coco Bliss (10lbs) - Organic Coco Coir for Plants - OMRI-Listed Coco Coir Brick for Garden Soil & Potting Mixes - Coconut Fiber Substrate Mixes with Potting Soil for Indoor Plants & Outdoor Plants https://a.co/d/jdn5Jwj



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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@Tropical

Looks like any of those coir options will work for you.  I'm unfamiliar with those brands, but it looks like coir should look.

Not all coir is created equal, the main difference being the amount of water it holds.  You'll have to try em out and see for yourself.

Decent coir should hold 4x its weight in water.  The better brands can hold more than that. 

I think any of those will help you get shrooms.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: raccoon_cat] * 1
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raccoon_cat said:
Ah, makes sense! Maybe I’ll leave the blue out of my next batch for to learn more better. Thanks!


I like the food coloring. It lets me see where the good mycelieum is since a lot of contams don't strip the color out of the Agar. Just a thought.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9]
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KlarnEvil9 said:
My new avatar is an actual picture of me!


Me as well... Don't tell the feds.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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Oven bag or filter patch :awesomenod:

Edited by LewDoja (04/01/25 07:28 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 1
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Splittinghairs said:
callmehippie said:
Bags are actually great. As long as you buy the Grain and bag and PC it all yourself. Which is mere fractions of the cost of a vendor bag..

and as long If you have the proper equipment like a Flowood or ffu preferably cause it way less complicated.  although a Sab can be used it's just a pain in the ass.


So once you have the proper experience and all the proper equipment and everything. Then I would definitely be using bags over jars.

Simply for the fact that it takes like four or five jars to equal one 5 lb bag so you can get a lot more done and utilize a lot more space in the PC. When using bags.


I guess this is where maybe I am not understanding the grow bag concept though.

Granted I’m still in the newb wasting time with cultures phase and will start agar next go around once I figure out how to get some prints this cycle.

BUT

If I screw up grains then I only lose the grains. Shit happens.

If I screw up a grow bag I’m out a lot more as far as inoculation, grains and now substrate to boot.

Plus that whole project is trash.

If I screw up a grain jar my ratio goes down. I normally get pretty solid results on my jars and go 4 for 4, but I have some B+ that I lost a jar and had to drop my ratios for the two tubs they are in now and they are looking pretty right now. But my whole process wasn’t killed because of whatever mistake I made with that one jar.


I'm just gonna say it, AIO bags are a waste of time and money.  Anything you order that's pre made and promises to save time is in fact a waste of materials and time.  To be successful at mushroom cultivation you need to build some base skills, first agar, then grain spawn, then bulk substrate/ fruiting.  Trying to side step that with kits means a very low success rate and not a whole lot learned.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dala]
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Hi,

Cheers!

What do you think about buying big coco bricks and break those? Advised / not advised?

Ty for your time and help!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 2
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Advised.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=28507557&PHPSESSID=&fpart=1#28507557


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
    #29175751 -

The big bricks are good :thumbup: I've been using one big brick for a year or more.

Get a flathead screwdriver and a hammer and just start shaving it off the brick.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
Splittinghairs said:
callmehippie said:
Bags are actually great. As long as you buy the Grain and bag and PC it all yourself. Which is mere fractions of the cost of a vendor bag..

and as long If you have the proper equipment like a Flowood or ffu preferably cause it way less complicated.  although a Sab can be used it's just a pain in the ass.


So once you have the proper experience and all the proper equipment and everything. Then I would definitely be using bags over jars.

Simply for the fact that it takes like four or five jars to equal one 5 lb bag so you can get a lot more done and utilize a lot more space in the PC. When using bags.


I guess this is where maybe I am not understanding the grow bag concept though.

Granted I’m still in the newb wasting time with cultures phase and will start agar next go around once I figure out how to get some prints this cycle.

BUT

If I screw up grains then I only lose the grains. Shit happens.

If I screw up a grow bag I’m out a lot more as far as inoculation, grains and now substrate to boot.

Plus that whole project is trash.

If I screw up a grain jar my ratio goes down. I normally get pretty solid results on my jars and go 4 for 4, but I have some B+ that I lost a jar and had to drop my ratios for the two tubs they are in now and they are looking pretty right now. But my whole process wasn’t killed because of whatever mistake I made with that one jar.


I'm just gonna say it, AIO bags are a waste of time and money.  Anything you order that's pre made and promises to save time is in fact a waste of materials and time.  To be successful at mushroom cultivation you need to build some base skills, first agar, then grain spawn, then bulk substrate/ fruiting.  Trying to side step that with kits means a very low success rate and not a whole lot learned.


:whathesaid:


Were they  talking about all in one's the whole time? I was not aware. I would have said the same thing for sure. I definitely don't want them to think I was saying all in one bags are good.

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