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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG] * 2
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DV8DUG said:
Okay... I don't really have the free time to read through the 16k of posts in Woodlovers thread. Can someone inform me of the best spawn medium for Ps. Allenii? I have never grown a wood lover before and I have full plates all of a sudden.



For grain, I've done millet on Allennii. Rye, wheat, or Oats would probably work too. My azures seemed to like both Rye and Wheat equally this year.

Stipe likes HWFP spawn, swears by it. I haven’t tried it yet to give my opinion. You can inoculate it with LC, or mix in colonized grain. He lays out how he does it 3-5ish pages back.

I did colonized grain to sterilized wood chips for my woodlover bags this year. I'm doing Azures and Cyans.

As for which one is best for Allenii, I can't say. AFAIK, it's user preference. From what I can tell, woodlovers aren't all that picky as long as they end up with some kind of hard wood.


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Edited by PuffM4gicDr4gon (03/27/25 09:07 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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Plus 1 for Stipe's / Lipa's hwfp. But anyway just get them to grains first. Rye, spelt, millet and oats produced really nice wl spawn for me, wbr didn't.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG] * 3
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Woodlovers will eat literally any grain you choose aggressively. Agar to sterilized grain to sterilized chips to pasteurized chips for expansion, and forget about it.

Wood doesn't matter. Pick one. I get mixed hardwood mulch from my local landscaping supply. A yard is like 20 bucks

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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Thank you teapots and gentlemen. Oats I do have.

Thanks for the heads up on HWFP. I shall research that.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG]
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Im doing g2g with an ffu and pretty much letting the jars sit in the flow for 5min, rotate and sit another 5, and then wipe down with iso. My main focus is lids of receiving jars and then a good wipe down on donor. I'm still not really a fan of having the donor jar hovering over the open receiving jar, but this is pretty much all I can do, right? I try to put some distance between the jars while I pour, but idk...it still feels sketchy to me. I haven't done much g2g, so I may just be being paranoid?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Have you had any issues?

I try to keep a dust cover over master jars, If I can reduce the overall amount of particles the better.... or just keeping them inside a tote or box during colonization is better than on an open shelf.

Even if it's just all in my head, it helps my peace of mind

Edited by LewDoja (03/27/25 02:31 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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Starting to see some growth but I'm concerned about the lid on my old school tub project. Am I okay to remove it and let the remaining grow or do I still need to worry about contaminants?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies] * 1
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Plins work great going to grain. You may even feel bold enough to pluck one and drop it into some LC.
Plin plates were all I used with my ochra grows. They were very productive. I’m now using plin plates for semps.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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One nice thing about sawdust spawn, in addition to having a ton of inoculation points, it attracts less vermin if you spawn it outside.

When I did a wine cap bed with grain, the squirrels were always digging in it.  When I get around to starting a new one, I'll use a single grain jar to inoculate a bunch of sawdust, and then build the bed from that.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
Have you had any issues?

I try to keep a dust cover over master jars, If I can reduce the overall amount of particles the better.... or just keeping them inside a tote or box during colonization is better than on an open shelf.

Even if it's just all in my head, it helps my peace of mind



Tbh, I've only done one round of g2g before today. The receiving jars look perfect, but I'm not spawning anything til I move next weekend, so we'll see. I like the idea of the dust covers - even going back to coffee filters with a rubber band would probably do the trick. Good idea, as always. 🤙


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Edited by ThurmanMurman (03/27/25 03:54 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 3
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:rofl:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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2 wood chips walk into a bar...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Hey shroomers, just wanted a sanity check on my thought process.

I’ve seen a lot of old posts about pre-adapting mycelium to grain or substrate at the agar or LC stage. The theory is that by exposing it early, the mycelium learns to produce the right enzymes, grows stronger, and becomes more resistant—skipping the usual adjustment period when transferring to grains or bulk.

Could I not take this further by starting with multispore on agar made from the same grain and substrate I’ll use in the grow.
Incubate the agar in the exact same conditions as my colonization/fruiting environment.
Why spores instead of a clone or LC?
Spores = millions of genetic variations.
Some of those genetics will naturally thrive in my specific setup (nutrients, temps, etc.).
By isolating the strongest mycelium through transfers, I’m essentially breeding the perfect genetics for my grow conditions.

Does this make sense, or am I overcomplicating it?


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Edited by CranberrySteve (03/27/25 05:14 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CranberrySteve]
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CranberrySteve said:
Hey shroomers, just wanted a sanity check on my thought process.

I’ve seen a lot of old posts about pre-adapting mycelium to grain or substrate at the agar or LC stage. The theory is that by exposing it early, the mycelium learns to produce the right enzymes, grows stronger, and becomes more resistant—skipping the usual adjustment period when transferring to grains or bulk.

Could I not take this further by starting with multispore on agar made from the same grain and substrate I’ll use in the grow.
Incubate the agar in the exact same conditions as my colonization/fruiting environment.
Why spores instead of a clone or LC?
Spores = millions of genetic variations.
Some of those genetics will naturally thrive in my specific setup (nutrients, temps, etc.).
By isolating the strongest mycelium through transfers, I’m essentially breeding the perfect genetics for my grow conditions.

Does this make sense, or am I overcomplicating it?



That pretty much is what I have been doing lately, at least for spore to agar, my plates do live in my grow room. I don't always use Rye water mostly because I've been trying different things.

But... how do you make agar from substrate?:confused:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psilygoose]
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psilygoose said:
That pretty much is what I have been doing lately, at least for spore to agar, my plates do live in my grow room. I don't always use Rye water mostly because I've been trying different things.

But... how do you make agar from substrate?:confused:



Did you notice faster growth on those rye plates?

I was just going to grind up some dry coir in a magic bullet and add it along with grain soak water, and maybe some peptone. I don't really care if it's got bits in it, and I'd hope the mycelium would appreciate some chunks of lignin and celluloses. I'd also try and keep the nutrient level fairly low, so like 0.5% peptone, half diluted grain soak liquid and a pinch or so of coir per 500ml. I dunno, I'm just spit balling


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CranberrySteve]
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Wondering if anyone can confirm if this is contamination or not, first time I've experienced these symptoms which are: really fluffy mycelium or mold that has attached to tub walls and a fairly strong vinegar/ferment smell. The why is easy for me to guess, they were accidentally deprived of fae while I was traveling but unsure if should be binned or not

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Damnlamb]
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Damnlamb said:
Wondering if anyone can confirm if this is contamination or not, first time I've experienced these symptoms which are: really fluffy mycelium or mold that has attached to tub walls and a fairly strong vinegar/ferment smell. The why is easy for me to guess, they were accidentally deprived of fae while I was traveling but unsure if should be binned or not





I see sporulating pin mold, def contam

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Damnlamb] * 4
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Pure contam but it’s kinda cool lookin


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Thanks! The smell was a fairly big tell but nice to have a definitive answer

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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ThurmanMurman said:
Im doing g2g with an ffu and pretty much letting the jars sit in the flow for 5min, rotate and sit another 5, and then wipe down with iso. My main focus is lids of receiving jars and then a good wipe down on donor. I'm still not really a fan of having the donor jar hovering over the open receiving jar, but this is pretty much all I can do, right? I try to put some distance between the jars while I pour, but idk...it still feels sketchy to me. I haven't done much g2g, so I may just be being paranoid?



With sterile laminar flow it doesn't matter much if you're hovering over the opening. The stream of air won't really let any nasties fall straight down.

Just don't put anything non-sterile between the filter face and an open sterile thing.

I just wipe the lids (if I remember :lol:) and go, no waiting.

Edited by Phaethon (03/27/25 07:35 PM)

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