callmehippie said:

But how do u transfer the pin from wherever it sits at to the sab without worrying about contamination on the way? I'm asking just so I don't have to carry the whole shoe box over and put it in there or is that the only way?

The albino varieties don't usually drop spores do they?

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Why can't you carry the shoebox? I'm an old lady and carry shoeboxes all the time. Sometimes 16 quart boxes too. It's not going to hurt it to move it.

Just move the shoebox near the SAB (or set up the SAB near the shoebox), flame sterilize a scalpel, and cut it off above the base. Cool the scalpel agar near the edge of the plate you're transferring to or you'll be cooking the mushroom when you slice it.

Is that a true albino variety? I guess if it's TAT. Not all white shrooms are true albino, (Albino A+ for example)

I don't grow albinos, they look freaky to me. I like my mushrooms brown. Did grow TAT once, and I got a swab, not a print.

Albinos make spores, they can be clear. They don't always drop spores.You can swab some spores off the gills once they open if all you're trying to do is have a way to give them away, or save for later.  PEs, while not albino, are the same way.

Only albinos I grew were classic TATs 4 years ago and I got them as a spore swab. If all you're trying to do is have the ability to grow more after they're done, just get some sterile medical swabs on Amazon, wait until the shroom is mature, then swab all under the gills, dry in your SAB and bag it.

I thought you were trying to learn to clone.

callmehippie said:

Lol. Of course I can move the box. I'd just rather Not,if I don't have to. I mean why take the whole box if I can just take the pin. 


Just trying to learn things and if there's easier ways to go about it. 

I used all that I had of this culture on these cakes. So I do need more and I just saw the opportunity to try somthing new.  So technically I'm not cloning for a specific characteristic or anything at least not yet. 

Also.  My main thing is I'm wanting to go about this in ways I havnt done before.


The only way to learn new things is to try them. My mind set it to learn everthing. Practice/perfect everthing. And try everthing. Just for the sake the experience/knowledge. 

But yes I am trying to learn to clone.  Only im trying a way I havnt already done is all. 


And thats good info about the albino spores.  I was  confused. About them not having spores as opposed to not dropping spores. So you definitely cleared that up for me.

Im sure I'll end up just taking the box over to the sab though

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I don’t understand what your ziplock is doing for you. We spawn in open air. Your shoebox, while lidded, is still allowing air to circulate into it. Whatever is in the air between your shoebox and your SAB is already on your mushrooms. You’re not protecting them from anything that’s not already on them.

callmehippie said:

And thats good info about the albino spores.  I was  confused. About them not having spores as opposed to not dropping spores. So you definitely cleared that up for me.

Im sure I'll end up just taking the box over to the sab though

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Another thing, in addition to "they don't drop spores, you need to swab them to get spores" is that they also don't produce as much spores as a lot of non-albino varieties. Sometimes very little.

As far as I know, the only cubes that have to be spread by cloning because it produces zero spores are those weird super strong mutant varieties that don't even look like mushrooms. They look like a brain or coral. They have no gills thus no spores.

They also grow very slowly. Maybe why they're stronger, since PE grows slowly and is strong)

Enigma is the name of one. I think they've only been around about 5 years.

Here's a pic of some Enigma (by InfraredRick)
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Whenever new growers (or old growers) parrot something about senescence being something to worry about here, I bring up Enigma.

If senescence was a big issue in this hobby, that variety would be getting weaker and less robust every time it's cloned.

Here's a more typical looking one (from anonymous poster)

GenesisCorrupted said:

If you’re looking to chill out. How much DMT would you sprinkle on a bowl of marijuana?

I know a lot of people are confident and they can just eyeball it.
Please give me a comparative amount to look for.
Like the top of a tack.

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Jrey16 said:

Would any of these be okay to put to grains? Mr. Peanut first pic, and second picture Golden Teacher

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DERRAYLD said:

Is this better?

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Much thanks

I guess what I was looking for was I saw him talk about using a drop of dish soap to keep the spores from clumping, and we use like natural dish soap.  So I guess my question was if all dish soap is created equal in that regard?

Also, I will probably squirt water onto the prints and suck it back up, like I see folks do with serial dilution.  Make two at a time and pasteurize one.  Keep the other one in case I fuck that up.

Maybe I will bug stipe in the pasteurized spores thread.