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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: neuralnautwork]
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Im curious about whether, in the presence of a liner, you could pull the cake and put a few inches of wet coir in there, then place the cake back on top of it. 

the problem with these cakes that are thin and dry out is that while you're working to recover them, the clock is ticking on inevitable contam.  I made this mistake myself and the substrate fully colonized, used all most of its water, and waterproofed itself to the point that pouring water in and soaking the cake did nothing.  the only way I salvaged it was to inject it with water using an old LC syringe and then cover it with a thin layer of coir.  that got me a good flush but it also got me some fuzzy green patches that caused me to chuck the cake into the garden pile. 

from my perspective, the shallower the substate the less room for error you have when dialing in your FAE.  good luck and let us know how it goes.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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You can put your cake in a shallow dish and bottom water it somewhat like a houseplant.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG]
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I'm just starting out and learning from all my mistakes but my goal is to give this all a go for mental health issues over an acceptably long period of time (6mo-1yr) so I'm experimenting with different things to ramp up skill.  As of yet I'm unsure on the grow cycle needed to do sustain that.. 

Anyways, I'll have a little extra LC leftover and unsure how best to propagate it or keep it going.  I'm not sure I'm ready for printing and agar yet.  I guess I could keep rebuying LCs but I see these "expander" or "multiplier" kits.  (I assume I can post links to sponsor pages?)  I read the LC is good for up to 6 months by itself but that doesn't cover the me-mistake factor.  I see "four months" of fridge life advertised on the expander. 

Could I get a [brief] sanity check? Thanks in advance.

Edited by sokratz (03/25/25 05:32 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
    #29168850 -

Honestly.. would it make sense to just stack them? I have two tubs of the same size in the same condition, would it make sense to just stack them together to reach as close to the desired thickness at possible?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: neuralnautwork]
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I've never tried that but if you were to do it I'd say do it sooner than later so the the bottom cake doesn't waste a bunch of energy colonizing the surface that then becomes the middle of the new cake. 

thats going to be a bit of a project to get one of those cakes out and onto the other without them breaking apart.  liner (among other things) really help with pulling cakes out intact for harvesting, hydration, etc.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
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How many days to leave agar plates after pouring to check for contam?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maplepine]
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I’m curious to hear other people’s answers to this. I’d say about a week.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: oat bag] * 2
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I pour plates when I need them, so I usually use some as soon as they solidify. :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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:whathesaid:


That also helps to get the sleeve back on, and have more room to close it tightly.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
    #29168933 -

Whoa that makes a lot of sense.

I typically pour a day the day before I use my plates and I wrap them before their first use.

If I pour and use almost immediately there’s no reason to wrap before that first use. If I’m understanding correctly.

Neat!

Edited by oat bag (03/25/25 08:28 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: oat bag]
    #29168936 -

Still. If I was asked to check my pour for contamination I’d wait a week. Day to day that doesn’t happen

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: QuantumZ00] * 1
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Remember, though, dinosaurs: small pins are Hella potent. There is a small consensus around here that they are actually significantly more potent per volume than their full grown sibling mushrooms. I've seen many many people sure of that. I haven't really done pins often like that to compare, but just something to think about.


^^
Sounds like some good experiments to send to the reverend for qtesting..

He/she/they lol.  Idk.  Anyways..is always happy to test out a hypothesis when it comes to potency.

Maby can help clear up this claim.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I want to put one of these womtat pins on a plate. 

Do I have to take any precautions when taking it from the cake to my sab. 

They are in different rooms. But would only be about a 12ft walk in open air. 


I figured just pick it and put it inside a new Ziploc bag and then take it to the sab.

What I'm really wondering though.  is that even necessary?




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
    #29169074 -

The Ziploc bag isn't really going to help.

But what works for me with small fruits which is almost entirely what I work with because I grow exotics, is Rev's BRF pucks.  (I do mine in pp5 cups)

I just drop the whole fruit on there (in front of my hood to minimize satellites).  And usually what I do is I take three of them, my last batch one of the three had mold that over ran it but the other two look golden.

Whole pin clone.




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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If you’re looking to chill out. How much DMT would you sprinkle on a bowl of marijuana?

I know a lot of people are confident and they can just eyeball it.
Please give me a comparative amount to look for.
Like the top of a tack.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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Ahhh yes gotta love brf pucks.  What would we do without them.

Ive done the pin to puck before. Currently don't have any brf to make more tho. But I do have some plates. 
Also considering g putting one to grain.  Just for the sake of seeing g how it goes. 

So I guess the best practice then if I'm working out of my sab.would  be to just take the entire shoe box with the lid on and put it inside the sab then make  the transfers..

I didn't think a ziplick wouldn't help at all tho.

My thought process behind using a clean ziplock. Was if somebody can send me a wedge in the mail inside of a ziplock and  it arrive uncontaminated then I should be able to drop a small pin in one to take it to my sab with good results.

Just curious if you've tried it and speaking from experience?

Ps.I like those little cups you have. They have great visibility.  Where do you get them?


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Edited by callmehippie (03/26/25 01:31 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Would any of these be okay to put to grains? Mr. Peanut first pic, and second picture Golden Teacher





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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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Hi

In the first batch I see one I'd send right now, the one 5 down, 3rd row on the right (if you count the first row of just 1 as a row.)

I don't feel strongly against some of the others, but I feel strongly for that one, if you've got jars PCed and are waiting for a response, you could cut that in 4 and send to 4 jars.

Maybe the one below it too that looks similarly ropy except for one spot.

Someone else can answer the rest. I don't grow much that isn't rhizo (ropy), and there are conflicting theories here on plates that are part rhizo and part fluffy.

I recommend in future to put something under plates without holes, makes light differences that make it hard to see really well what's going on.

I usually put plates on something solid color and opaque to photograph.

In the future I'd make all your transfer pieces the size of the smallest ones here, or even smaller. Smaller is better, less likely to bring contam, and a small bit will work. Some people use grain of rice size, I use a little bigger than that but not as big as the bigger of these.


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Edited by nektar61 (03/26/25 02:32 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
I want to put one of these womtat pins on a plate. 

Do I have to take any precautions when taking it from the cake to my sab. .....What I'm really wondering though.  is that even necessary?


It's worth doing, even if just for the practise, so when you have something really worth cloning, it's not your first time.

First pins are good clone material because they beat everything else and won to be first. (maybe just a theory, but sounds right)

(This below is from the link in my sig line. It's about cloning plins - plate pins, but still applies):

Before a plin drops spores (and before any plins on the plate drop spores), cut it off above the base with a flame-sterilized scalpel and push it into agar in a new plate with a sterilized scalpel. I've had very good luck doing this, got a very potent x7x clone this way. More info here.

I also cut off the plin caps, if they have any opening at all to keep spores from dropping, spores will make your clone not only clone, and defeat the purpose of cloning. Same if you don't cut off the stipe, and bring some non-clone mycelium over.

If any shrooms have dropped spores already in that grow, some people would rip open the stipe (stem) and take spores out of there, but I try to get clones material before any spores are dropped, since I've looked under a microscope and see spores on one I took from inside a stipe, washed it with distilled water, and still found some spores on it. Spores are very tiny, incredibly light, and get around.


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Edited by nektar61 (03/26/25 02:29 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
callmehippie said:
I want to put one of these womtat pins on a plate. 

Do I have to take any precautions when taking it from the cake to my sab. 


(This is from the link in my sig line. It's about cloning plins - plate pins, but still applies):

Before a plin drops spores (and before any plins on the plate drop spores), cut it off above the base with a flame-sterilized scalpel and push it into agar in a new plate with a sterilized scalpel. I've had very good luck doing this, got a very potent x7x clone this way. More info here.

I also cut off the plin caps, if they have any opening at all to keep spores from dropping, spores will make your clone not only clone, and defeat the purpose of cloning. Same if you don't cut off the stipe, and bring some non-clone mycelium over.

If any shrooms have dropped spores already in that grow, some people would rip open the stipe (stem) and take spores out of there, but I try to get clones material before any spores are dropped, since I've looked under a microscope and see spores on one I took from inside a stipe, washed it with distilled water, and still found some spores on it. Spores are very tiny, incredibly light, and get around.




But how do u transfer the pin from wherever it sits at to the sab without worrying about contamination on the way? I'm asking just so I don't have to carry the whole shoe box over and put it in there or is that the only way?

The albino varieties don't usually drop spores do they?


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