dopesauce said:

just posted but id love a quick answer. thank you in advance!

Is there any reason one couldn't use a 84% boveda pack in a monotub beside the liner for fruiting? It sounds like a pretty easy way to get the humidity to stay at a consistent level for the entire fruiting process. they are used to hydrate new humidors, safe to touch cigars, but wouldn't want it touching the substrate

vs: having a hydro meter in each tub connected to a misting system,
or: opening the lids each day to mist multiple times.

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When first starting out I advise you resist the urge to buy or use liquid culture for the following reasons. Don't use LC until you have all of the lead up techniques including the ability to produce reliably clean spawn nailed down. Stay as far from LC as possible until then, otherwise you'll be chasing variables and failures forever.

Each skill builds upon the next.

1. Spores to agar to produce culture; cleaning to produce pure culture, making transfers, and agar to grain.

This step will familiarize you with the fungal life cycle and introduce you to the basics of identification for both contamination and healthy mycelium. During this phase you'll learn how to reliably produce clean cultures and sterilize both grains and media.

Once these skills are mastered, move to skillset #2

2. Grain to grain expansion.

This step expands upon the previous production phase by introducing how to expand your pure culture exponentially. This is a more advanced stage dealing with inoculation techniques and aseptic techniques which will prepare you for the next step:

3. Liquid inoculant/liquid culture.

Liquids will not work for you if you haven't learned to identify pure culture, contamination, or prepare sterile media which was learned way back in step one. Liquids won't work for you if you don't understand/master the aseptic techniques required for expansion.

Walk before you run, otherwise there's too many variables to troubleshoot. Each phase carries it's own set of criteria for troubleshooting problems, if you skip them, you're going to be fucked.

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dopesauce said:

just posted but id love a quick answer. thank you in advance!

Is there any reason one couldn't use a 84% boveda pack in a monotub beside the liner for fruiting? It sounds like a pretty easy way to get the humidity to stay at a consistent level for the entire fruiting process. they are used to hydrate new humidors, safe to touch cigars, but wouldn't want it touching the substrate

vs: having a hydro meter in each tub connected to a misting system,
or: opening the lids each day to mist multiple times.

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Stipe-n Cap said:

Sounds familiar.

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When first starting out I advise you resist the urge to buy or use liquid culture for the following reasons. Don't use LC until you have all of the lead up techniques including the ability to produce reliably clean spawn nailed down. Stay as far from LC as possible until then, otherwise you'll be chasing variables and failures forever.

Each skill builds upon the next.

1. Spores to agar to produce culture; cleaning to produce pure culture, making transfers, and agar to grain.

This step will familiarize you with the fungal life cycle and introduce you to the basics of identification for both contamination and healthy mycelium. During this phase you'll learn how to reliably produce clean cultures and sterilize both grains and media.

Once these skills are mastered, move to skillset #2

2. Grain to grain expansion.

This step expands upon the previous production phase by introducing how to expand your pure culture exponentially. This is a more advanced stage dealing with inoculation techniques and aseptic techniques which will prepare you for the next step:

3. Liquid inoculant/liquid culture.

Liquids will not work for you if you haven't learned to identify pure culture, contamination, or prepare sterile media which was learned way back in step one. Liquids won't work for you if you don't understand/master the aseptic techniques required for expansion.

Walk before you run, otherwise there's too many variables to troubleshoot. Each phase carries it's own set of criteria for troubleshooting problems, if you skip them, you're going to be fucked.

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catnip40 said:

lc sellers have psyopped the masses

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Smellyhobbit said:

Flowchart:

Do you want to grow mushrooms? -> Yes -> LC -> 🍄‍🟫

And it’s just that easy.

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LewDoja said:

Soo true.  It seems like every one and their mother wants know about LC, nor do they heed the advice once given.


@QZ

That is what the internet generation is all about, impatience!

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I dunno my guy, I see the exact same behavior from all generations.  We’re just old and grumpy now

I’m just real confused when guy selling me things became an unbiased information source

I think one of the great truths about people is we do not fundamentally change, especially in a generation.  The general mold has been the same for millennia.

Smellyhobbit said:

That’s because LC doesn’t germinate. It’s living tissue.

I use LC primarily to hunt for genes. I always have a wider genetic expression via LC than a plate, even a clone plate vs a sample from that same clone going to broth. LC is, after all, 3D agar. Sectoring goings 360° from each little globule. Lots of expression to choose from. Great tool for pheno hunting.

Doesn’t hurt if you want to easily and quickly inoculate 15 jars, too.

But I don’t make LC without clean agar. That would be wacky.

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Smellyhobbit said:

That’s because LC doesn’t germinate. It’s living tissue.

I use LC primarily to hunt for genes. I always have a wider genetic expression via LC than a plate, even a clone plate vs a sample from that same clone going to broth. LC is, after all, 3D agar. Sectoring goings 360° from each little globule. Lots of expression to choose from. Great tool for pheno hunting.

Doesn’t hurt if you want to easily and quickly inoculate 15 jars, too.

But I don’t make LC without clean agar. That would be wacky.

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stagger said:

KlarnEvil9 said:

Done. 37g fresh including 2 blobs.

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Enjoy!

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