dinosaurs said:

nine days since pins. according to my logs,  everything I've grown before this would have finished by now.  everything else about these genetics have been fast as hell.  jars fully colonized in 2 weeks, and pins 17 days after spawn to bulk.

this was spawned into an unlined and unmodified 69 qt tub as a pilot grow of new genetics.  I didn't modify it because a.) this tubs lid fit is so poor that it allows a ton of FAE whether I like it or not, and b.) the breeder of the genetics this is *supposed* to be said it needs very little FAE.  he said he spawned to monotubs and all he did was open them for 5min per day to allow air exchange. 

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So weird lol. This is like the third case I've seen in a few days.

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LewDoja said:

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So weird lol. This is like the third case I've seen in a few days.

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I think that is one of the first ones from like 5 days ago...just finally got bigger, but same cluster???

Pretty sure You mentioned it was wet bubble then too, and offered Mack a semp print for answering the symptoms, iirc.

Just out of curiosity (without UTFSE) what type of symptoms do viruses cause? Have you ever encountered any (or at least potentially?)

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I was thinking it might be the same one but I was too tired to look for it
Having literally and finally slept on it lol, I'm beginning to think it's vert and virus combo. Bacteria and predator fungi don't care if they kill the host. Where as viruses typically don't mean to. Viruses tend to damage RNA and DNA causing mutation.
I think we all see a lot of cases without even realizing it. Writing it off as random mutation. Random mutation does occur in plants and fungi but it's rarely detrimental. At least to the organism involved. It's kind of like exploring potential paths of evolution. Opening doors and seeing what works. There's up to date research papers supporting it. Especially in regards to plants.
I think good examples of virally damaged genetics are things like these popular clone only mutant strains. It's not killing the colony but it messed up the directions on how to breed. This could also be part of a defensive measure taken by the organism to help prevent spead of the disease. Hard to say. 
In this case I may retract my bet of Wet Bubble and go back to Verticillium which I definitely see. Especially in the large fruit. The curve ball is the primordia forming on the stem of the other fruit and the smaller fruits doing the same. That's an organizational problem that could be produced by a virus.. with some chance of random mutation as I defined above. Virus would make more sense to me being the fruit is in a weaker state.
Either way it's 8am and that boy just ain't right.

psilofreq said:

Should I harvest this monotub of bluey vuitton? 

The flush seems to have run it's course.  Growth has stalled and some fruits are starting to show gills, though hard to see in the pic.  Some of the larger fruits look bruised, small guys are getting browner/black caps and some pins look aborted.  I picked one of the larger fruits yesterday and it dried to almost 3 grams, so I'm estimating maybe 50-70 grams dried in the tub, which I'd be more than happy with.

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This could also be part of a defensive measure taken by the organism to help prevent spead of the disease.

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Hadn't pondered that possibility 🤔.....Thanks TCO.
And yeah I agree we may see a lot more than we realize, and assume it's stress, environmental, hidden contam, etc. But could be reason we see (not often) signs of senescence, when senescence isn't really a commonality.



just by the overall vibe of the tub my first thought was vert.

Not sure if it's a normal response or juat coincidence....for vert to cause them to grow horizontal or parallel to the sub, as well as the chalky-ness

oatsnhoes said:

I prepped some coir for a couple of shoe boxes a few months ago in an insulated cooler. The leftover coir has been sitting in the cooler ever since, unopened. Is it still good to use after sitting for a while?

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Yeule said:

Hey yall, I'm gonna make LC and I have 2 questions.

Ill be following the josex poke tek btw.

How long should I let the LC cool after taking it out of the PC? Its been wiped and is waiting in my sab next to the (still wrapped in foil) syringe.

Also, I really feel uncomfortable injection the biopsy through the open lid, can it be done through an RTV injection port? Josex just barely opens the lid but when it comes to LC I'd rather not.

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oatsnhoes said:

I prepped some coir for a couple of shoe boxes a few months ago in an insulated cooler...

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Mr Piggy said:

You CAN NOT make clean work go faster, even if you paint your equipment red.

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