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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29114216 - 02/04/25 11:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

lfn said:

I appreciate the help and response. I just went down an informative rabbit hole because of it.

I think I'll try top fruiting the one bag i inoculated with the free strain that came with my order. I'll document what I can if everything works out.

I'll second that it looks right.

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#29114256 - 02/05/25 01:06 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

blueberrybroccoli said:

What are potato flakes anyways? I only find instant potato mash that has other additives

Edit: The most convenient thing for me right now would be brown rice flour. Everything else i would have to order from the net

I think most people use the instant mashed potatoes (as potato flakes) which have some preservatives in them. At least that's what I got - any TC please call me out if this is wrong?

BRF you can make yourself if you've got a spice/coffee grinder from brown rice - the coffee/spice grinder is useful for grinding dried shrooms too. I only mention this because I've seen people talk about ordering BRF online and I'm pretty sure its not cheap whereas you can pick up 5lb of brown rice from Walmart for like $4.

You'd have to do the BRF in small batches which should work for agar. But it might be a bit tedious for PF tek.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29114258 - 02/05/25 01:09 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

i always just used plain idaho instant mash lol

you can just use water from boiling potatoes too

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#29114264 - 02/05/25 01:18 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Idahoan Original Mashed Potatoes

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Ingredients:
Idaho® potatoes with emulsifier (monoglycerides) and preservative (sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bisulfite, citric acid, mixed tocopherols)

lol yeah you can boil a potato too but I'm pretty sure the instant mash is cheaper, quicker, and overall more convenient.

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#29114271 - 02/05/25 01:29 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

what im saying is ive used that for a long time, i don't think you need to worry about those extra additives. and if u are worried about them: boil potatoes and use the water

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29114278 - 02/05/25 01:49 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

sage_bd said:

Idahoan Original Mashed Potatoes

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Ingredients:
Idaho® potatoes with emulsifier (monoglycerides) and preservative (sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bisulfite, citric acid, mixed tocopherols)

lol yeah you can boil a potato too but I'm pretty sure the instant mash is cheaper, quicker, and overall more convenient.

Fun fact:

In Idaho it's hard to find really big "Idaho potatos" seems like we export all the good ones.

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#29114323 - 02/05/25 04:29 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Erm, hate to he a party pooper, but for PDY I literally just boil a single potato and mash it up a little. Put pan on stove. Add water and potato. Water the plants. Return to stove. Add a pinch of yeast and some sugar. Decant. Add agar. PC.

Compared to preparing grains it's about as inconvenient as scratching one's butt. Also comes out pretty clear

Also, the tape was finished.

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#29114386 - 02/05/25 07:47 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I am going to spray paint the bottom half of my 42 litre tubs. What would be the recommended height to spray paint up to ensure mushrooms don’t grow from side or bottom?

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#29114388 - 02/05/25 07:48 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

ctlucas said:

I am going to spray paint the bottom half of my 42 litre tubs. What would be the recommended height to spray paint up to ensure mushrooms don’t grow from side or bottom?

thats not how it works

catnip40 said:

liners are a crutch for sidepins, if u want to reduce sidepins u need to compress ur sub as evenly and level as possible and what i have actually noticed is that bowing out the edges of ur tub while compressing it will allow the tub to push back against the substrate while it shrinks. the same effect as a liner would provide really

now if u wanted to make the argument that liners are good for cleanup then by all means.. the liner sidepin thing is a total psyop and sometimes doesnt even reduce any sidepins if u dont spawn ur tub right anyway

i also like to give my top layer a good mist right at spawn so that the top is wetter than the rest, that will provide the extra moisture to produce shrooms on the surface

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#29114405 - 02/05/25 08:18 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Is it okay to use 3 layers of micropore tape on grain jar lids?
I have some 3M micropore tape and when i look at it i can clearly see very tiny holes.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29114408 - 02/05/25 08:26 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

blueberrybroccoli said:

Is it okay to use 3 layers of micropore tape on grain jar lids?
I have some 3M micropore tape and when i look at it i can clearly see very tiny holes.

its definitely on the lower rung of filter materials but yes 3 layers is fine and i used that on grain lids for many years

i did 1 on bottom 2 on top, then adding a new layer every time it gets cruddy until its like 5 layers on the top then u might as well just replace it

i confess ive used cruddy layerd on top over and over micropore lids for like years without changing them tho but its cheap enough u might as well just replace it when u need to

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#29114415 - 02/05/25 08:35 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Just had my first flush and wondering if cakes can be dry for too long and stall out? I've been trying to rehydrate them for about 4 days now by bottom watering and misting. Do you think these pins will mature or should I go ahead and harvest them? I've been misting daily and I know you're not supposed to mist pins apparently. Also how long do you think it'll be until I see my 2nd flush? Thanks in advance everyone. I know I did a pretty sloppy job at harvesting my first flush by all the bruising.

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#29114417 - 02/05/25 08:38 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Alright, thanks. This might be another dumb question: after pc'ing wit aluminum foil on top, how long should i wait before getting them out? When its cool enough? I always here that damp micropore tape is useless but isnt that kind of unavoidable in a steam sterilizer? So should i wait and let them completely dry before taking them out?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29114419 - 02/05/25 08:41 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

dabbott95 said:

Just had my first flush and wondering if cakes can be dry for too long and stall out? I've been trying to rehydrate them for about 4 days now by bottom watering and misting. Do you think these pins will mature or should I go ahead and harvest them? I've been misting daily and I know you're not supposed to mist pins apparently. Also how long do you think it'll be until I see my 2nd flush? Thanks in advance everyone. I know I did a pretty sloppy job at harvesting my first flush by all the bruising.

i just dunk the substrate in water for like 4-6 hours or overnight if i forget then let them be. should get pins in about a week or less. sometimes i give the top a decent mist after draining it off as well

i completely pick off all the pins and stumps and shit so that its a clean surface for 2nd flush but thats just preference

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#29114422 - 02/05/25 08:43 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

KauaiOrca said:

I've got an air fryer that looks like a small oven and it has a "warm" setting on it and I checked the temperature inside and it's 120-130 degrees. The fan circulates air in there and it dehydrated about 200 grams wet to cracker dry in about 2 hours.

Is there any chance at all this is doing harm to quality/potency compared to the slower working dehydrators? It's so much faster and I can put it outside while it's working and no smell in the house at all.

Any advice?

I think some, if not most, would agree that higher temps will help dry faster thereby removing moisture so that it doesn’t oxidize. The general consensus is 165 degrees for 24 hours. Slow dry might cause potency issues

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#29114431 - 02/05/25 08:49 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

blueberrybroccoli said:

Alright, thanks. This might be another dumb question: after pc'ing wit aluminum foil on top, how long should i wait before getting them out? When its cool enough? I always here that damp micropore tape is useless but isnt that kind of unavoidable in a steam sterilizer? So should i wait and let them completely dry before taking them out?

i leave mine in the pc overnight and then take em out. u want to at least wait until it cools and depressurizes naturally

damp micropore is definitely not ideal but its never caused me any issues. just dont go shaking ur grains and have them shaking up against a wet filter wait until it dries.

i always filled my jars a little lower than most (about 1/2 full vs 5/8) and im able to shake it without the grains ever touching the lid anyway so maybe thats why a wet micropore filter never really caused me any issue

i just know i have used micropore enough times and i never had any major contam issue that would lead me to blame the filter and not myself or something else

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#29114443 - 02/05/25 09:03 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Hey again y'all... So apparently my latest shrooms want to become astronauts when they grow up but can someone explain why and should I worry over their little space helmets? I really hope I don't need to worry because they're cute as shit and much thicker than the previous batch

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#29114454 - 02/05/25 09:16 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I appreciate it. I'll pick the pins and stumps when I get home unless I have noticed growth.

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#29114540 - 02/05/25 11:21 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Mr Piggy said:

BonsaidMycelium said:

Sorry, I should have been more clear. This isn't for a flow hood, but for the inline fan for FAE in a Martha tent. I don't think Laminar Flow is an issues in this case.

Oh, that makes sense. Why filter? You’ve already spawned by the time it’s in the tent.

Serious question, I don’t martha.

Thats a fair point and question.

I keep all of my grows in the martha. Grain jars, Spawn to bulk, and fruiting. Figured it would be safest to have a filter.

ironically, I think I got contam in my great value ready rice bags because of the increased humidity, so maybe Ill keep the grain spawn out of it.

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#29114546 - 02/05/25 11:28 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

ctlucas said:

I am going to spray paint the bottom half of my 42 litre tubs. What would be the recommended height to spray paint up to ensure mushrooms don’t grow from side or bottom?

Don't, there is no point. Light does not cause side pins, improper surface conditions will cause side pins. You will waste money and time on painting your tubs, then have the exact same problem.

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