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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Anyone here ever add a casing layer after pinning? Because I just did and I feel like I fucked it up. I am still new to using bigger sized monotubs, I always used mini monos. I'm pretty sure the holes I put in the monotub is way too big because it dries up very fast. I've been sick the past few days and haven't been able to take care of that tub. I checked in on it today and it was super dry but with pins. It first started pinning around 3-4 days ago i think but I guess due to the dryness they grew really slow. I only tried a casing layer once before but I said fuck it and ended up adding a casing layer on it, hoping to keep some moisture on top. Casing was added on top of the tiny pins too but I tried not to cover the bigger pins.  Did I mess up this tub?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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Jrey16 said:
Anyone here ever add a casing layer after pinning? Because I just did and I feel like I fucked it up. I am still new to using bigger sized monotubs, I always used mini monos. I'm pretty sure the holes I put in the monotub is way too big because it dries up very fast. I've been sick the past few days and haven't been able to take care of that tub. I checked in on it today and it was super dry but with pins. It first started pinning around 3-4 days ago i think but I guess due to the dryness they grew really slow. I only tried a casing layer once before but I said fuck it and ended up adding a casing layer on it, hoping to keep some moisture on top. Casing was added on top of the tiny pins too but I tried not to cover the bigger pins.  Did I mess up this tub?


It's probably fine but also probably not helping much. The biggest hassle is you're going to end up with a bunch of casing on top of your fruits.

Also, unless you are growing exotics, casing isn't of a lot of benefit.

Definitely better to skip it in the future rather than casing late. Especially with cubes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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Yea I am not going to case again with "regular" cubes. But I will be growing PE and APE soon for my first time and from what I read casing helps when growing PE.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 1
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Jrey16 said:
But I will be growing PE and APE soon for my first time and from what I read casing helps when growing PE.


I've used casings for PE from time to time but its just a crutch, if you have your tubs dialed in then there won't be any benefit.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jebi] * 2
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Jebi said:
AI is already smart enough, and competent enough to do basically anything a human can do.


:justno:

AI fucks up everything constantly.  It's gotten good enough to sound like it knows what it's talking about while having no fucking clue at all, which basically makes it a politician.  A family was recently poisoned from AI mushroom identification.  It still tells people to put wood shavings and concrete in baking mixes.  It's garbage, and now it's starting to eat its own tail.

It's awesome that it can translate well, but don't use it for anything serious that could matter.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: blueberrybroccoli]
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blueberrybroccoli said:
Is it frowned upon to ask for spore prints on here? As a beginner
I would rather not use online shops



Ok. They are PF cakes. How do you suggest I go about bottom watering?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Can i make agar with only sugar/honey, water and agar and skipping the potato flakes? What are potato flakes anyways? I only find instant potato mash that has other additives

Edit: The most convenient thing for me right now would be brown rice flour. Everything else i would have to order from the net

Edited by blueberrybroccoli (02/04/25 12:04 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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Mr Piggy said:
Jebi said:
AI is already smart enough, and competent enough to do basically anything a human can do.


:justno:

AI fucks up everything constantly.  It's gotten good enough to sound like it knows what it's talking about while having no fucking clue at all, which basically makes it a politician.  A family was recently poisoned from AI mushroom identification.  It still tells people to put wood shavings and concrete in baking mixes.  It's garbage, and now it's starting to eat its own tail.

It's awesome that it can translate well, but don't use it for anything serious that could matter.


:whathesaid:

I did not know about that mushroom poisoning story though, that's scary. I refuse to use A.I. for anything, it's already going to do enough damage to society in the next 20 years without my help or contributing to its machine learning.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: QuantumZ00] * 1
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:toast:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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Jrey16 said:
Yea I am not going to case again with "regular" cubes. But I will be growing PE and APE soon for my first time and from what I read casing helps when growing PE.


Casing after colonization helps with blobs


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Headass]
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This is what ai was meant for

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMkbPStgx/


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: blueberrybroccoli] * 1
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blueberrybroccoli said:
Can i make agar with only sugar/honey, water and agar and skipping the potato flakes? What are potato flakes anyways? I only find instant potato mash that has other additives

Edit: The most convenient thing for me right now would be brown rice flour. Everything else i would have to order from the net


You can't skip any steps in any TEK ever.

There are no shortcuts in this hobby, you can't mix and match things.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
Jebi said:
AI is already smart enough, and competent enough to do basically anything a human can do.


:justno:

AI fucks up everything constantly.  It's gotten good enough to sound like it knows what it's talking about while having no fucking clue at all, which basically makes it a politician.  A family was recently poisoned from AI mushroom identification.  It still tells people to put wood shavings and concrete in baking mixes.  It's garbage, and now it's starting to eat its own tail.

It's awesome that it can translate well, but don't use it for anything serious that could matter.


Thats consumer grade AI.  It's purpose is to aggregate search results for a society that rarely asks any real questions.  People said the same shit about the internet in the 80s-90s...

Marginalize or trivialize AI if you want, but I take this as serious as the industrial revolution or powered flight.  We are basically only beta testers of consumer algorithms at this point.  It is a tidal wave of change on our doorstep.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jebi] * 3
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I've heard that about every new technology for the past 30 years.  All I've seen it do is fuck up people's lives even more while failing to meet any of the great predictions for it.

AI has zero place in cultivation, that's for sure.


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Smellyhobbit said:
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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I don't disagree with you there.  There are serious ramifications of technological advancement that have been pondered by generations of science fiction writers who are at the forefront of both historical acumen and the deep logical implications of going up the science tech tree.

It was infantile AI that started accurately predicting peoples health and welfare based solely off their internet activity and that has since been locked away from public scrutiny.  It's ability to correlate information is already as good or better then individual humans. I truly believe that.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jebi] * 1
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Jebi said:
Thats consumer grade AI.  It's purpose is to aggregate search results for a society that rarely asks any real questions.  People said the same shit about the internet in the 80s-90s...

Marginalize or trivialize AI if you want, but I take this as serious as the industrial revolution or powered flight.  We are basically only beta testers of consumer algorithms at this point.  It is a tidal wave of change on our doorstep.


I think it's AI combined with robotics that will change just about everything, not necessarily for the better.

I tried out an AI app made to analyze and provide commentary on a new screenplay I wrote and was beyond astonished at the depth  and clarity of the comments and suggestions.

Showed an extremely in depth understanding of the characters, their motivations, what dialogue might not work, plot twists, nuances in communication.

And I'm sure apps like this are probably lower grade AI compared to what DWARPA is working on.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KauaiOrca]
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agreed.  Like most human endeavors, I am sure it will be a mixed bag of good and bad happenings.

Humans themselves are AI to the universe.  Biologically created robots with onboard processing and reason.  Perfectly imperfect.  AI is one of many logical steps of human evolution.  And it is superior to us many ways

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KauaiOrca] * 2
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How much dry coir would be used to make 1 quart at field capacity? 

Somewhere in the back of my brain I'm thinking 80 grams.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: golfin_ernie] * 1
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golfin_ernie said:
How much dry coir would be used to make 1 quart at field capacity? 

Somewhere in the back of my brain I'm thinking 80 grams.


seems about right, i put about 1.5q or so in a shoebox and i think i worked it out to being like 91-100g of coir at some point but i can't remember 100%


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: golfin_ernie] * 4
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Idk how well this applies to your coir, but I recently made ~2qt of prepped coir using 125g dry coir.

Edit: here's a thread for ~1qt of coir/verm by Faht that I have saved. I haven't used it in a while, but here it is:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=27179543&fpart=1&PHPSESSID=

Edited by Dala (02/04/25 01:04 PM)

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