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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: akapulko] * 1
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akapulko said:
write a top list of the best mushrooms in your opinion? preferably paneolus, I didn’t like the cubes, they were too heavy


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushluvv]
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mushluvv said:



Hi was hoping for opinion on a gt colonized grow bag. I cut open the top after full colonization and started fresh air exchange 13 days ago. I open the bag and fan it 2-3 times a day and mist the walls per manufacturer directions.

The bag is in a tub with temp set to 73-75f. Does this look correct at this stage? No pins yet at 2 weeks and looks whispy. What can I do?


I've grown in bags a lot in the past. There is absolutely no need whatsoever to open it up all the way until the mushrooms are growing and just need more room to spread out.

Once the bag is fully colonized, what I did is just open the top and loosely paper clip it with the bag fully up so it gets a little more FAE. Doesn't really need that much and definitely no need for fanning or misting. Definitely not wide open.

Will most likely take more than 2 weeks to get pins... don't worry until it's after 4 weeks. A bag has a lot of substrate to colonize and then consolidate. Just because it's colonized on the surface doesn't mean it's colonized fully all the way through. Just open it a bit and leave it alone. When mushrooms are about 2-4 inches and getting thicker, then open up for more air. No need before that.

Mostly just be patient and don't stress. If it's not contaminated you'll get mushrooms. If it is contaminated, at this stage, there is nothing you can do.

FWIW, to me, that bag does not look like it's near close to being ready to pin. I wouldn't expect pins for at least 2 more weeks, maybe more and there is nothing whatsoever you can to do rush it, but you can slow it down by f'n around with it too much. At this stage, leave it alone.


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Edited by KauaiOrca (01/27/25 09:37 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Does coir expire or decompose?

I have some old coir (almost 3 years old) and it is still wet and looks much darker and not as fibrous around the edges. It’s not clumpy and feels spongy still. Thinking it’s still fine just seeing if the pros had any input. Thanks!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: san pedro guy]
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Nah, with the exception of some rare contaminated buckets. You can keep that in a bucket for months and months and still come back and hydrate it and use it again.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KauaiOrca]
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I've grown in bags a lot in the past. There is absolutely no need whatsoever to open it up all the way until the mushrooms are growing and just need more room to spread out.

Once the bag is fully colonized, what I did is just open the top and loosely paper clip it with the bag fully up so it gets a little more FAE. Doesn't really need that much and definitely no need for fanning or misting. Definitely not wide open.

Will most likely take more than 2 weeks to get pins... don't worry until it's after 4 weeks. A bag has a lot of substrate to colonize and then consolidate. Just because it's colonized on the surface doesn't mean it's colonized fully all the way through. Just open it a bit and leave it alone. When mushrooms are about 2-4 inches and getting thicker, then open up for more air. No need before that.

Mostly just be patient and don't stress. If it's not contaminated you'll get mushrooms. If it is contaminated, at this stage, there is nothing you can do.

FWIW, to me, that bag does not look like it's near close to being ready to pin. I wouldn't expect pins for at least 2 more weeks, maybe more and there is nothing whatsoever you can to do rush it, but you can slow it down by f'n around with it too much. At this stage, leave it alone.


Thanks for the info!
Why would the manufacturer suggest opening it up at full colonization? That seems counterintuitive if this is the case.The issue I ran Into at the time of full colonization was the walls of the bag seemed dry and has been needing misting to keep the walls wet since

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushluvv]
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Because they don’t know or don’t care.

They made money they don’t really care if you grew mushrooms or not.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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I gotchya...:hug:


Keep your Temps down might help, :shrug:

G/L

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
Jrey16 said:
LyleChipperson said:
Jrey16 said:
How was the growth?


No different than usual, even if there's less dissolved nutrients it should still be enough.


I kind of a perfectionist and the plates are bothering the fuck out of me lol. Even thinking of pouring more plates, but if these plates would work I'm not gonna waste my time.

I recently got a new pressure cooker, a Presto 23 Qt and it was my first time using it for agar. My old PC was a cheap one from China that was defective af. The pressure gauge wasn't working for example and I always had to just guess and hope it was on 15 PSI but I actually never had any problems with it lol. Idk if it was the way I PC'd the agar or if my LME is getting old because it is all rocked up and I live in a humid environment.


LME is hygroscopic and hydrophilic- keep as airtight as possible.
You might need to dissolve prior to PC, to ensure it doesn't just stay clumped on the bottom if media bottle. 

15-20min is sufficient @15psi



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But also: go full throttle with a stick blender for a minute while you boil the agar prior to PC'ing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushluvv]
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mushluvv said:
Thanks for the info!
Why would the manufacturer suggest opening it up at full colonization? That seems counterintuitive if this is the case.The issue I ran Into at the time of full colonization was the walls of the bag seemed dry and has been needing misting to keep the walls wet since</font></font>


Not really sure, but I never had any pins show up growing in bags until the top surface was completely white and I mean completely and pinning would happen at least 2 weeks after that. By the looks of your picture, although it might be deceiving, your bag doesn't appear to be fully colonized yet. Once it's fully colonized, it's pretty resistant to infection and opening the bag a bit is not much of a risk.

Where you live does matter and when I was growing in bags I lived in a very humid place (Hawaii) so if you live in the desert you may have to be more attentive to not letting the surface dry out as in misting occasionally, I suppose.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Would it be relatively safe to store PC'd rye jars for something like 2 weeks?

I waited too long and my agar culture reached the edges of the plates, so I think it's better to do one more agar transfer to be sure it's kept clean.

The lids are metal with rubber seal (previously used), with 4 small GE holes and tyvek fabric filter on the inside.

Should I seal the holes with to prevent the grain from drying or does that increase the risk of contam?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: gibilan11]
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Yes

Leave them sealed until you’re ready to work on them.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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I tried a different brand of coco coir today, eee well it's got a really long coco fibers and there's quite a lot of it. Is this okay or should I toss it and get what I used before?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 3
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It's fine.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said:
It's fine.


Sweet, thanks. :muppet:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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Is this one ready to be harvested?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Peleus] * 1
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Yes but it looks sporeless so rather leave them to mature together.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Peleus] * 2
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You’ll disturb the other mushrooms if you try to harvest that one. Patience.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: gibilan11]
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gibilan11 said:
Would it be relatively safe to store PC'd rye jars for something like 2 weeks?



In the fridge if at all.

probably fine in the fridge, might get mushy, but could work.

I always make jars up the day I'm using them. Sometimes if it's late I let them cool overnight and noc in the morning.

Longest I've let them sit was 3 days, when I disgovered my PC metal gasket was bent and I couldn't reach pressure. Ordered another put jars in fridge, PCed when I got the part in 3 days, then PCed, worked fine.

If you do put in fridge, let warm up to room temp before PCing or they might crack.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bchino]
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bchino said:
Is there any issue with starting a LC jar from MSS to agar if it’s clean? Or should I wait to clone a fruit and use that?


Make LC out of clean agar.  It all there in the HG.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jebi] * 1
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Is it possible to pull a monokaryon from a plate and bring it all the way to grain and have it look like a mated culture?

Or does it look dissimilar and can't be mistaken for dikaryon?


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