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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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First off Stipe, I am not doubting your words. I just didn't get the 'sterilizing chips is a waste of time'. I used hwfp in the past for indoor edible grows and sterilized it. Tried it once for outdoors, wasn't too satisfied. I didn't even know it can be used without sterilization. You explained it, I got the point. I value your writeups and knowledge, just didn't get that one point.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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I got some fir sawdust for my gyms, but I think I’m going to give apple or hickory HWFP a go too for cost and availability’s sake. HWFP is ezpz.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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I'm not sure what's available in your area but these are my go to @ 7$ for a 40lb bag:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 2
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Yeah something about like that. Grocery stores carry the BBQ kind, hardware stores carry others. Easy as pie to source.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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I too would like to apologize Stipe. I'm not doubting your knowledge with the exception of the statement where the environment doesn't effect the reliability of HWFP.

As I said in my previous post, the winters in my area are extremely unpredictable. I live in Northern Alberta. In the two years I've lived here, I've seen it stay above freezing into December, or go to -20C on November 1st. Our Summers can be brutal with months of +35c and very little humidity.

Woodlovers are a long term project with an all or nothing gamble in my area. If I plant a bed of raw chips and it somehow doesn't fruit during our very limited fall, I don't get a crop that year. My understanding is that woodlovers won't start fruiting until they've colonized all their available resources (assuming environmental conditions are right of course).

Last year I did colonized wood chips only, and all 3 of my azure pots gave me some fruit. It wasn't a lot, but it did prove that going straight to colonized wood chips does work within the confines my environment allows.

I'm not dismissing HWFP out of hand, I look at it more as a learning curve. Year 1 was proving that azures CAN fruit here. Year 2 I'm switching from pots to beds and plan to see if I can keep mycelium alive during our-40 C winters by insulating the bed with straw and maybe tarps. If I see alive mycelium in year 3, then I plan to plant a lot of raw chips and inoculate that way to see if they work. If I go that route, I'll definitely give HWFP a try.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 6
    #29105106 -

So, to keep in line with Stipe's 'does it work' vs 'does it deliver consistent and repeatable results'. My shits and giggles 'experiments'. The hwfp is out of the equation here, but will be included.
(Woodchips are free and available on every workday, so for hwfp I'll have to go shopping)

Modeled after Yoshi's work with the IWL.
Agar straight to chips, subaeruginosa (36 days in) L, (19 days in) C, ovoideocystidiata (19 days in) R.



IWL agar straight to chips (both 19 days in)



Ovoideocystidiata LC straight to chips (31 days in)



And for reference IWL on regular old grains (13 days in)



So. I was really curious about Yoshi's agar straight to chips and tried it for myself. I've always firmly believed agar or LC to chips was a no-go. Why not try it? Gotta have something to do.

Does it work? Sure, it's been producing mycelium. Would I use this as spawn? Sure. I like the fact that it excludes grains and will be less interesting to birds and rodents. Does it somehow equal to or compete with grains? Not at all. The grain jars took 2-3 weeks to full colonization at the same temperatures. They grow denser mycelium, that recovers faster after a shake. Especially the LC was rather disappointing.

I'll be back this autumn with a side by side of how they fruited. Will be a row of small beds.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
    #29105159 -

I just put some gym SSLC to chips and those numbers aren’t giving me hope :lol:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Aaah Smelly I hope to join the Gym fun in a bit. Really curious


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 4
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Smellyhobbit said:
I got some fir sawdust for my gyms, but I think I’m going to give apple or hickory HWFP a go too for cost and availability’s sake. HWFP is ezpz.


I’ve been keeping an eye out for a bag of doug fir pellets.  I figure if all else fails I can pour some into a prepaid box and mail them to you.  Abusing the reasonable limits of mailing things is what this hobby is about.

Literally just posters.
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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
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Hahaha, good perspective! :laugh:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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Stipe-n Cap said:
You might as well get the larger unit...
Yeah, you can get a conversion kit, so if you can get a 941 and convert to 1941x for cheaper than a straight up sterilizer, go for it.


I just did; got a 941 with the control valve instead of a weight.

And you're also right that the overpowered burner was causing problems with the prestos running dry

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Stipe-n Cap said: The thick aluminum walls of the AA are excellent for running bags, no real need for spacers to prevent melting but may be beneficial for steam circulation.



Now i'm trying see how many bags of how much wood chips i can fit in the 941 and wondering about your statement.

can i have the bags touching the walls of the 941 without jar rings?

can 4 xls bags fit in the 941?

*Edit* here's a picture of how full i normally fill bags, trying to see how to fit them in the 941*

Edited by Generic (01/28/25 03:22 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 2
    #29105521 -

This is how I run 3t spawn bags in a 75x, same deal:



Xls bags are for large sawdust bags run at atmospheric, imo. I personally wouldn't, but I'm not sure if wouldn't is the same as cant. Give it a go, see what happens.

No issues with the bags touching the sides, so long as you don't use a heat source in excess of the manufacturers BTU. Placing spacers does help with steam circulation, but I didn't use them.i purged for 30 mins and ran a 4 hour cycle.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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awesome, thanks again.

Still not sure the main reasoning behind you not liking xls bags for this use, is it because they take so long to get core temperatures to sterilize?

(or is it because sawdust has a hard time breathing and colonizing when its in an xls bag?)

Glad to see your video again, perfect.

I didn't put a trivet in the middle, just on the bottom and the top, so bags are stacked on top of eachother.

Didn't take any wood chips out either, this thing is jam packed with 4 bags, containing 8lbs 13oz each

:shrug: lid barely fits on, but it fits.

not too sure this is smart, but I will learn.  in 4 hours

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 11
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It’s been so nice out this winter I said fuck it and ended up spawning ~3gal of azurescens spawn to 4.5cubic ft of Scott’s Nature Scapes today, right under our rosemary bush. Mixed it up by hand and then added an inch or so top layer of mulch


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Edited by Psicomb (01/29/25 08:24 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psicomb] * 1
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Nice Dude!  My first round of spawn is getting pretty close. Fall is pretty far off and yet, I’m still excited. Huzzah!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psicomb] * 1
    #29107659 -

In a big beautiful rosemary bush!! I love that raised bed! I plan the same with a greenhouse over it with partial tarp on top to protect from direct sun! No extreme heat but decent humidity! :smile:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cybesa] * 1
    #29109128 -

I'm attempting to expand a shoebox. Is there too much moisture inside? I'm wondering if I should have let my fermented chips dry out a bit more before mixing with the myceliated chips. Opinions?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: bchino] * 3
    #29109177 -

Does look tad wet just dump out n redo it, can't rush woodlovers anyhow


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider] * 13
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:awedance: wavzzies pinning like mad from crater of fruit picked

I really hope bunch shoot up healthy at once.

Seems my ghetto tek butt n cluster cloning has made a strong fruiting indoor azurescens im amazed how many pins are in butt crater


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider] * 9
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I'm digging how these Azure plates are turning out:






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