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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LobstaBob]
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LobstaBob said:
How’s it going guys?

Newby grower here.

This is my 4th attempt at dialing in my monotub. I’ve tried modified and non modified tubs (having better success in unmodified tubs)
In my previous tubs I ran into contamination issues (grew 3 different molds in 2 tubs πŸ˜‚πŸ˜­)
The last tub I ran I got all the way to this point then my cake stalled due to I think lack of moisture, I tried to dunk it to re-hydrate it and I fuct it!

This is my 4th attempt, I made sure my substrate was moist af (not dripping but much wetter than previous)

I put tub into fruiting conditions 3 days ago and this is where I’m at.
Are these β€˜Hyphal knots’?  I have been misting annd fanning every morning when needed. I read in a previous post fanning is useless??? Is that so?

Anyways here’s what I’m talking about. Any feedback would be much appreciated πŸ˜ŽπŸ€™








Sorry about the poor lighting, I can assure u there is no colour variation, I’m in my bathroom and have a yellow light behind me

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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Alright I'd rather know than not know. Here is the tub in question.





It's on day 17. Its thick - 2.75in in a standard 6qt sterilite.

That comes out to ~3L total so with ~0.7L spawn that would give a 1:3.3 ish ratio. These were my first boxes and I wasn't very precise with how I was measuring things :shrug:.

So I'd expect it to be slow, is my point. It is the slowest and thickest of the first 4 boxes that I made and my first box (the most shallow one has pins growing nicely).

The stuff that looks kinda spider weby didn't show up until the myc started popping up through the top. So its not like I've heard described where cobweb moves fast and colonizes the whole thing.

I'd appreciate anyone's perspective who's got more experience than me so basically everyone here :cheers:.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LobstaBob]
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Those are not hyphal knots, but you will likely have some soon πŸ’ͺ

And yeah fanning is outdated for the most part, at least the β€œfanning just to fan/ 3x a day” stuff of old. Make sure you read through the hitchhikers guide if you haven’t already :mushroom2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
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sage_bd said:
gotcha, it's just difficult for an newb like myself with an untrained eye to differentiate.

When watching the myc colonize my grain it didn't spread like I've seen cobweb mold spread (from pics on the forums), but I thought some of the myc it kind of looked the same since I've mostly got tomentose myc and not a ton of experience :/

I don't want mold or bacteria either just trying to learn (in regard to my no fruits question - it would be good to know that they didn't so I wouldn't have to worry I'd just know).

edit: just went over to how it should and shouldn't look to see and found these



and my tubs look nothing like that. On grain though I thought it looked similar to something I saw on the forums that was called cobweb but can't find it right now.



looks like mold me


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Edited by Ziran (01/24/25 04:36 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
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sage_bd said:
gotcha, it's just difficult for an newb like myself with an untrained eye to differentiate.

When watching the myc colonize my grain it didn't spread like I've seen cobweb mold spread (from pics on the forums), but I thought some of the myc it kind of looked the same since I've mostly got tomentose myc and not a ton of experience :/

I don't want mold or bacteria either just trying to learn (in regard to my no fruits question - it would be good to know that they didn't so I wouldn't have to worry I'd just know).

edit: just went over to how it should and shouldn't look to see and found these



and my tubs look nothing like that. On grain though I thought it looked similar to something I saw on the forums that was called cobweb but can't find it right now.



Camera is right, it could be another mold, too. I have just seen any mold that stays white called cobweb whether that is correct or not idk :shrug:
I totally get wishful thinking when you don't have a stockpile yet. And maybe it is something else. I hope so. Most molds will out compete our fungus and prevent getting any fruits but there is only one way to find out.

If you have another place to let it do its thing, keep it where it can't spread spores in your growing area. Worst case, you learn more about how what ever this is grows. Best case, you get some shrooms. I have had discarded subs produce fruit in a dry assed garage in very low temperatures not even in tubs because I got too lazy to clean out the trays. Certainly not best practice but it can happen.

Once you get more than you can give away, you can get more selective with your resources. But in the early days every bit of spawn feels precious. Nothing wrong with that and learning as you go.

Sorry, not good at short answers.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ahhhhhh no, @rev and @Ziran

Quote:
sage_bd said:
I just went over to how it should and shouldn't look to see and found these
[...]
and my tubs look nothing like that.





Those images are copied from the how it shouldn't look thread as examples of cobweb and I'm saying mine don't look like that, I've just posted mine above





sorry for the confusions :doh:

Edited by sage_bd (01/24/25 04:48 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
    #29100500 -

sage_bd said:
Alright I'd rather know than not know. Here is the tub in question.





It's on day 17. Its thick - 2.75in in a standard 6qt sterilite.

That comes out to ~3L total so with ~0.7L spawn that would give a 1:3.3 ish ratio. These were my first boxes and I wasn't very precise with how I was measuring things :shrug:.

So I'd expect it to be slow, is my point. It is the slowest and thickest of the first 4 boxes that I made and my first box (the most shallow one has pins growing nicely).

The stuff that looks kinda spider weby didn't show up until the myc started popping up through the top. So its not like I've heard described where cobweb moves fast and colonizes the whole thing.

I'd appreciate anyone's perspective who's got more experience than me so basically everyone here :cheers:.



I don't see anything scary or weby. If you didn't just mist these, I would flip or tilt the lid a little so they get a bit more passive air. Otherwise, just keep letting them do what they are doing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Amazing, thanks for your input.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd] * 3
    #29100510 -

Ya, this thread moves pretty fast, I started off responding to Kloakk but then continued my thought on yours. Still think that it all holds true. Your pix are not scary and Kloakk could keep watching his to see what happens with a few precautions. Like isolating the tub if possible.

Not that the world isn't already full of spores, but why risk adding more to your work area if it is avoidable? I wouldn't worry about isolating yours based on those pix.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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ReverendMyc said:
Ya, this thread moves pretty fast, I started off responding to Kloakk but then continued my thought on yours. Still think that it all holds true. Your pix are not scary and Kloakk could keep watching his to see what happens with a few precautions. Like isolating the tub if possible.

Not that the world isn't already full of spores, but why risk adding more to your work area if it is avoidable? I wouldn't worry about isolating yours based on those pix.



Thanks for clearing that up, I was wondering who was answering who there for a minute :lol:

I don't have a suitable place for isolating that tub, I will however throw it out if there is any other growth then the intended Ochraceocentrata myc, it's very spiky so it should be easy to see if any other unwanted growth emerge. I just don't want to throw it out before I am certain. Thanks again.
:seriousthankyou:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Quote:
ReverendMyc said:
Ya, this thread moves pretty fast



So true lol. Theres web 1.0 for you.. but I actually do love it, its refreshing / so different from the rest of the internet here.

Thanks rev, I always appreciate your perspective. Keep on preaching :cheers:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
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Anyone here have, or know of, a tek on doing transfers, that has good photos, that is from the last 5 years, or at least doesn't mention the confusing, unneeded "sector" voodoo?

We're looking for (or maybe working on) something to link from other "all in one" teks like Beef's "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery" and my "FROM SPORES TO TRIPS." ...so new growers don't waste many hours chasing a phantom that doesn't exist at worst, or at best, doesn't matter to growing good shrooms.

Thank you


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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Thank you!
Here is how it looks. Sorry for bad quality. The paper clips are blurry, but I've just folded the bag and put them on.
[image align=none]https://www.shroomery.org/forums/thumbs/25-004/775871682-thumb_bag.jpg[/image]
The other bag is from another spawn I just did two days ago.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LobstaBob] * 1
    #29100559 -

LobstaBob said:
LobstaBob said:
How’s it going guys?

Newby grower here.

This is my 4th attempt at dialing in my monotub. I’ve tried modified and non modified tubs (having better success in unmodified tubs)
In my previous tubs I ran into contamination issues (grew 3 different molds in 2 tubs πŸ˜‚πŸ˜­)
The last tub I ran I got all the way to this point then my cake stalled due to I think lack of moisture, I tried to dunk it to re-hydrate it and I fuct it!

This is my 4th attempt, I made sure my substrate was moist af (not dripping but much wetter than previous)

I put tub into fruiting conditions 3 days ago and this is where I’m at.
Are these β€˜Hyphal knots’?  I have been misting annd fanning every morning when needed. I read in a previous post fanning is useless??? Is that so?

Anyways here’s what I’m talking about. Any feedback would be much appreciated πŸ˜ŽπŸ€™








Sorry about the poor lighting, I can assure u there is no colour variation, I’m in my bathroom and have a yellow light behind me



You shouldn’t be misting and fanning every morning. These two things are likely part of the reason you keep having issues dialing in your tub and stalling.

Shoeboxes are about the only tub that should be unmodified. Anything bigger and you’re gonna want to check out pasty’s ez-dialed tubs.

Spend some time reading the Hitchikers guide from BeefSupreme. I think you’re reading outdated teks that are causing you more harm than good.

As far as the tub or tubs go. Give them one good last mist and the LITFA. (Leave it the fuck alone)

They look like they’re about to produce something but as stated the lighting isn’t great so it’s hard to identify any real issues.

Good luck! Hope it works out for you this time.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: OLDDAD77]
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are old, overgrown pucks even more likely than plates to be harboring bacteria? I have trouble throwing stuff out. gotta be ruthless huh?


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Edited by Mackload (01/24/25 06:18 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: capsap]
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Gotcha, that was kinda what I imagined. The filter patch + non-sealed top should let it breathe for a while, holes probably aren't needed.

I had some vendor-bought bags last year that did pretty ok. Once it is 100% colonized, you should cut a slit, 2 inches above the substrate level and about the width of that filter patch. As the fruits grow, you can extend the cut around the sides, leaving the back side intact. Then you have a kind of hood that you can have more open for fresh air or more closed if it gets dry.

Looks like it's growing mycelium, take lots of pics and post here so more expert eyes than mine can check it out.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
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sage_bd said:
Fezzgig said:
the β€œholy grail” plastic cups with screw tops.



Which ones are those? I just did a re-write on how I do my PP5 screw top plates. Might be helpful? and yeah as OnlineCamera93 said, no pour, refers to not having to pour hot sterilized agar. You PC them :smile:



Here you go


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fezzgig]
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any good pressure cookers on amazon or dehydrators?

Im thinkin of dropping >200 on a pressure cooker stainless/aluminum.

and like >50 on a cheap dehydrator?

decent budget and possibilities or na?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoboShroom]
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Your price is a little low, but I’m sure you could find an Insta pot that would work.

I have a link to a pretty decent dehydrator that I was pretty pleased with for the price point. It’s small scale.

Link to groceries list

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoboShroom] * 1
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RoboShroom said:
any good pressure cookers on amazon or dehydrators?

Im thinkin of dropping >200 on a pressure cooker stainless/aluminum.

and like >50 on a cheap dehydrator?

decent budget and possibilities or na?



Try FB marketplace or local buy and sell groups


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