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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
Mackload said:
better picture. looks like mold.








pretty sure that's mold, bud. :sad:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload] * 1
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Kloakk said:
ReverendMyc said:
Kloakk said:
Mackload said:
better picture. looks like mold.








Sorry for your loss.

That looks like what is frequently called cobweb mold. It will probably grow at a ridiculous rate. Then you will be certain.



That was my thought too, it's been there 3 days(at least) but is not increasing in size, I'll keep a close eye on in tho, thanks.

Camera93 said:
I wanna vote some sort of pin mold

But I do agree with assessment that it's mold vs cubensis mycelium



I've only encountered black pin mold, I was actually isolating it(not my intention). :rofl: With that said, black pin mold had real fast growth and the little black "dots" could be seen within 48 hours. Would it do the same on coir?





Yes pin molds on coir grow rapid, and react to H202/solution, if curious. Won't be able to cure it it's almost just as tenacious as trich

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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KlarnEvil9 said:
I'm having a similar side/bottom pinning situation as well, from one x7x+ tub:






So my QQ: When I am harvesting the bigger fruits growing from the top surface (3 are ready to print!), should I also try to get the ones from the sides and bottom while I'm in there? I haven't seen any aborts yet, they are all growing right along.

I'm pretty sure the substrate pulled away from the tub when I carried them upstairs from the kitchen, I will adjust that going forward.

Thanks and love to you all!



Nice though on top.

I addressed this yesterday, (not with x7x+, haha), so I'll just link that;
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29098869#29098869

That said, it's good to have side pins / bottom pins once early on, to SEE what's going on down there. It's kind of like having a glass-bottom boat to see fish living their fish lives.

As for harvesting, I have eaten shrooms that grew on the bottom and were then dried. They were fine.

Nek


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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I’m working on making some MEA dishes and have an agar question.  I’m using the “holy grail” plastic cups with screw tops.  All the guides I can find suggest using a pressure cooker to sterilize the MEA before pouring.  If I’m pressure cooking the filled cups anyway, can I cut out the first PC step?  Is this what they mean by “no pour?”


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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Mackload said:
Kloakk said:
Mackload said:
better picture. looks like mold.








pretty sure that's mold, bud. :sad:



Sure looks like it, but a couple of things giving me hope, it's been there 3 or 4(spawn to bulk) days and has not increased in size, and I opened the tub and took it out, it didn't fall apart and really looked like a single fireweed seed, it's probably just wishfull thinking, but I'll keep y'all posted.

Fireweed seeds.


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LewDoja said:



Yes pin molds on coir grow rapid, and react to H202/solution, if curious. Won't be able to cure it it's almost just as tenacious as trich



I took it out, if it is mold, how long will it take before it's visible again? Thanks everyone :smile:


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Edited by Kloakk (01/24/25 02:28 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fezzgig] * 1
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Fezzgig said:
I’m working on making some MEA dishes and have an agar question.  I’m using the “holy grail” plastic cups with screw tops.  All the guides I can find suggest using a pressure cooker to sterilize the MEA before pouring.  If I’m pressure cooking the filled cups anyway, can I cut out the first PC step?  Is this what they mean by “no pour?”



You are correct, no pours get sterilized in the container you're using as a petri dish.

Vs sterilizing your agar in a vessel and "pouring" it into petri dishes (that come sterile in sleeve)


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fezzgig]
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Fezzgig said:
the “holy grail” plastic cups with screw tops.



Which ones are those? I just did a re-write on how I do my PP5 screw top plates. Might be helpful? and yeah as OnlineCamera93 said, no pour, refers to not having to pour hot sterilized agar. You PC them :smile:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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Thanks for the link, I read it before but I missed the part about being able to see what's going on better. I ended up harvesting the side/bottom pins (much bigger by then) and put 'er back in the closet, hoping for a second flush!  :mushroom2:

And I have been re-compressing the subs after they are in place on their shelf, maybe that will keep it a bit more tidy.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KauaiOrca] * 3
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KauaiOrca said:
Does anyone know if anyone has ever had success fruiting Panaeolus Cyanenscens top fruiting straight off of grain jars (with casing) the way cubes can be done that way?

Or is it absolutely necessary to have manure or something similar in the substrate to get them to fruit?




This: (TTBVI)


(Edit: I put the jar in a 19l tub with the lid flipped. Water at the bottom and a lot of varying conditions. Temp swaying a lot, humidity swaying a lot, regular misting as well as the spawn having been contaminated in the first place. This should not have worked so I consider myself nothing but lucky with this one. But yes, it can surely be done.)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ReverendMyc said:
Sorry for your loss.

That looks like what is frequently called cobweb mold. It will probably grow at a ridiculous rate. Then you will be certain.



So if you've got cobweb mold, your tub is done right? trash, no fruits?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
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Is this APE cooked?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd] * 4
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sage_bd said:
ReverendMyc said:
Sorry for your loss.

That looks like what is frequently called cobweb mold. It will probably grow at a ridiculous rate. Then you will be certain.



So if you've got cobweb mold, your tub is done right? trash, no fruits?



When I see mold, I am done. If there are already fruit, I may pick them first if they look okay. But I don't have time for moldy tubs and don't want them in my house.

That is just my process, not a judgement on anyone else.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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Kloakk said:
Mackload said:
better picture. looks like mold.








If it starts looking anything like this, don't get your hopes up...:





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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle]
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MycCycle said:
KauaiOrca said:
Does anyone know if anyone has ever had success fruiting Panaeolus Cyanenscens top fruiting straight off of grain jars (with casing) the way cubes can be done that way?

Or is it absolutely necessary to have manure or something similar in the substrate to get them to fruit?




This: (TTBVI)


(Edit: I put the jar in a 19l tub with the lid flipped. Water at the bottom and a lot of varying conditions. Temp swaying a lot, humidity swaying a lot, regular misting as well as the spawn having been contaminated in the first place. This should not have worked so I consider myself nothing but lucky with this one. But yes, it can surely be done.)



This is exactly what I was looking for!  THANKS!!!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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gotcha, it's just difficult for an newb like myself with an untrained eye to differentiate.

When watching the myc colonize my grain it didn't spread like I've seen cobweb mold spread (from pics on the forums), but I thought some of the myc it kind of looked the same since I've mostly got tomentose myc and not a ton of experience :/

I don't want mold or bacteria either just trying to learn (in regard to my no fruits question - it would be good to know that they didn't so I wouldn't have to worry I'd just know).

edit: just went over to how it should and shouldn't look to see and found these



and my tubs look nothing like that. On grain though I thought it looked similar to something I saw on the forums that was called cobweb but can't find it right now.

Edited by sage_bd (01/24/25 03:18 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle] * 2
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MycCycle said:
If it starts looking anything like this, don't get your hopes up...:








:hewut:

Hell no, I have 4 tubs going right now, it's only that one tub with the weird, pea size growth. As said earlier I took it out, if it comes back or pop up any other place in the tub I'll "yeet it in to the sun" as per Mr.Piggy. And by no means do I blame the coir, but I think I will find another brand, I've used 3 bricks and in the second brick there where a blue shoelace:rofl:

One of the other tubs.


Backup.


Edit; Brand of coir.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
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sage_bd said:
gotcha, it's just difficult for an newb like myself with an untrained eye to differentiate.

When watching the myc colonize my grain it didn't spread like I've seen cobweb mold spread (from pics on the forums), but I thought some of the myc it kind of looked the same since I've mostly got tomentose myc and not a ton of experience :/

I don't want mold or bacteria either just trying to learn (in regard to my no fruits question - it would be good to know that they didn't so I wouldn't have to worry I'd just know).

edit: just went over to how it should and shouldn't look to see and found these



and my tubs look nothing like that. On grain though I thought it looked similar to something I saw on the forums that was called cobweb but can't find it right now.



I have no idea if this is helpful or not, but when I'm looking at something to determine if it's mold or myc, I look close and ask myself "does it look like someone fanned out some dog hair?"

The molds I've seen that were close enough to myc to be unsure of all looked like strands of dog hair to me. Maybe it just helps me not give a shit what it is exactly- if its dog hair, it's bad.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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Hello!
I am a noob to this and have finally managed to spawn a healthy (I think) grain jar to coir-verm substrate (Followed a tek that I can't remember the name of sorry, but he used a psuedo casing layer). It's in a 1.85 quarts plastic ice-cream container that is in a unicorn bag with some perlite and water at the bottom in order to keep humidity high (I don't know if this is necessary). It has been 12 days and the mycelium has colonized almost everything, and it has a lot of knots (I think, tiny tiny white balls). The mycelium has hundreds of small waterbeeds on it, and the sides of the bag has some water on it. A photo would probably be better then me writing all this, I now realize, but I hope you get the picture. Okay, so now to my question: do I need to do anything, like open the bag and give it some fresh air (I have two paper clips closing the bag, and that bag has a filter patch)? Or do I just keep waiting?

I find a lot of different answers. What is "turning the lid upside down" equivalent to a bag?

Thanks to everyone here, this place have guided me so far!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: capsap] * 1
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Really hard to say without a pic or three. Upload some if you have them.

As far as fresh air, you can poke some tiny holes like this:


Obviously, that is a different type of bag, but it carries over to other bags.


Then again, without pics it's hard to tell if I'm giving advice on the right thing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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How’s it going guys?

Newby grower here.

This is my 4th attempt at dialing in my monotub. I’ve tried modified and non modified tubs (having better success in unmodified tubs)
In my previous tubs I ran into contamination issues (grew 3 different molds in 2 tubs 😂😭)
The last tub I ran I got all the way to this point then my cake stalled due to I think lack of moisture, I tried to dunk it to re-hydrate it and I fuct it!

This is my 4th attempt, I made sure my substrate was moist af (not dripping but much wetter than previous)

I put tub into fruiting conditions 3 days ago and this is where I’m at.
Are these ‘Hyphal knots’?  I have been misting annd fanning every morning when needed. I read in a previous post fanning is useless??? Is that so?

Anyways here’s what I’m talking about. Any feedback would be much appreciated 😎🤙




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