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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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CaptainPuffy said:
Has anyone experienced issues with mushrooms not being potent...



No insights on your medication question but have done 2 harvests thus far and am trying to figure out what it is that I am doing (could be genetics, too) that isn't getting me where I'd like to go (ego death / visual maximization).

I'd done a 7.5 g lemon tek and it seemed like it went off the rails when my playlist switched somehow to shuffle. Couldn't view the screen (cracked, visual distortion effect / need bifocals) and got frustrated and got up and down a bunch of times. Ended up just watching a movie and it basically just seemed like a heavy THC session. Which is fine, but I want to go places I'm not already familiar with.

A preceding trip was 4 g lemon tek and extremely euphoric, really a great experience so I had thought nearly doubling would get me closer to my goal.

I have seen somewhere "it's different every time" so I'm not stressing it, just learning and being patient.

I guess I can piggyback onto the question with what is the most likely reason a neophyte cultivator would be doing wrong in terms of potency?

So far these were both GT / BRF / SGFC cultivations.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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Kind of inconsequential, but its been bothering me for months and a buddy of mine asked me too - wtf is the message here? I've seen multiple memes about "working back to spore" as if it's some mountain to climb, and idek what they mean by that. Does the phrase mean to start a germ plate and take it from there? I dont get it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mustache Spinner] * 2
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Mustache Spinner said:
KauaiOrca said:
I can't understand why this isn't the most recommended tek for noobs. Dead simple and extremely reliable. I learned it from this tek... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984#21390984



This is very appealing, will be moving in this direction. I kind of love this thread for the random topic roulette factor. Sort or simpler than time-suck scouring.


This thread is an absolute gold mine for fleshing out the missing pieces you didn't know you were missing. I couldn't tell you how many times I've come across something and my reaction was "no shit? Thats good to know!" and I'm sure there's a bit of simple math at play here since he's pretty active, but it feels like half the time I have this moment, it was nugget dropped by LewDoja. 🤣 Inadvertently spoon feeding me info I didnt know I needed makes me a happy homie.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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Question that I know has been answered before:

How long can I let rye jars sit before inoculation?

I turned off the heat last night 11pm, they are still sitting in the PC now (2:30pm). I just got back with my 120qt bin, still need to cut some holes. Should I refrigerate the jars until later tonight or are they ok?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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nah they will be fine. sometimes i dont inoculate spawn bags for up to a week with no issues. after a while the grains will begin to dry out and be less ideal for use

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug]
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Sweet, thanks for the knowledge! Worst case ontario would be tomorrow afternoon, so that's a relief.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug] * 2
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KlarnEvil9 said:
Question that I know has been answered before:

How long can I let rye jars sit before inoculation?

I turned off the heat last night 11pm, they are still sitting in the PC now (2:30pm). I just got back with my 120qt bin, still need to cut some holes. Should I refrigerate the jars until later tonight or are they ok?


sloug said:
nah they will be fine. sometimes i dont inoculate spawn bags for up to a week with no issues. after a while the grains will begin to dry out and be less ideal for use


your main concern is the grains drying out for sure. what you are talking about a few days won't matter though. If they have been sterilized properly they will be fine out of the freezer. If they haven't its a foregone conclusion anyway.

I threw some fresh kodama jelly on some year-old millet and it took off perfectly. I have 3 jars. One is really strong, with the other two displaying weak growth. The rest of the ones in the batch tammed out over long periods of time, probably due to filter failure. So take all that with a grain of salt.

Yes it is possible to let grains sit a long time before they dry out too much to be host to healthy mycelium. You should use your media asap unless circumstances preclude or you already manufacture media in bulk for later use. My guess is that a hardier grain like oats or rye would take longer to dry than millet, but I haven't researched or tested this.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 3
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I have gone up to three months on jars with modified lids using wheat or wheat/millet combo. I don't recommend that at all, but if your hydration and sterilization are on point, you can certainly go a few days to a week without any concerns.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mustache Spinner] * 1
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Mustache Spinner said:
KauaiOrca said:
I can't understand why this isn't the most recommended tek for noobs. Dead simple and extremely reliable. I learned it from this tek... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984#21390984



This is very appealing, will be moving in this direction. I kind of love this thread for the random topic roulette factor. Sort or simpler than time-suck scouring.


Although I have absolutely zero empirical evidence to back this up, I am 100% convinced that Rye Grass Seed is far less likely to contaminate with invitro growing in PP5 containers than other grain alternatives. It's also very good for getting rando multispore grows going with little likelihood of contamination. I typically squirt 1ml of spore solution onto a small "puck" of RGS in a 4oz (small) PP5 container and I'd say 95% of the time it grows out healthy enough to "tiger drop" into a quart sized container with much more RGS... shake it and it colonizes fruits quickly and beautifully pretty much every time. And I typically do all of these steps without a flow hood, SAB or even paying that much attention to contamination. Everything is obviously pressure cooked and all that. Then, I clone the best fruits and the cycle of life just keeps going around.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ReverendMyc said:
I have gone up to three months on jars with modified lids using wheat or wheat/millet combo. I don't recommend that at all, but if your hydration and sterilization are on point, you can certainly go a few days to a week without any concerns.


I’ve been doing oats/red millet combo jars to get rid of the oats, and I’ve noticed that it seems to go faster than those separately.

Have you noticed any difference in terms of fruit quality?

I’d immediately think it’s healthier having a mix, rather than just one of them.
Kind of like eating different things throughout the day, rather than white rice every meal.

I get them at the same price and I really don’t mind doing both. Especially if there’s any difference in growth quality.

Any thoughts?

(Edit: typo)


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Edited by MycCycle (12/23/24 10:17 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle]
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Some say senescence can be mitigated by changing up carbon/nitrogen sources... probably different trace mineral profiles helps.. :shrug:

They are  complimentary  together... the red millet has higher nitrogen content & amino acids... not to mention their physical properties.

Edited by LewDoja (12/23/24 04:24 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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I've never personally experienced senescence with mushroom or weed clones :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
Some say senescence can be mitigated by changing up carbon/nitrogen sources... probably different trace mineral profiles helps.. :shrug:

They are  complimentary  together... the red millet has higher nitrogen content & amino acids... not to mention their physical properties.



Guess I’ll just keep on going on with that I'm doing.
Thanks again for the input ☺️


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle] * 1
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Created this uninoculated jar as a control due to mysterious contam issues. How long without contam must I wait before I can deem my grain prep/pc cycle/lid a success?



Lots of starch on glass. Had burst grains from prep. The inoculated jars seem to be colonizing fine.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle] * 1
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I like the grain combos for the physical properties. I can't say that they have shown better growth in spawn or fruiting ime, though. Some combos just improve workability, like easier to shake while holding more water or more inoculation points but easier to start colonizing from agar. In the end they all grow mush and if there is a difference, I have not observed it yet.

I am playing with quinoa right now and running a myceliated grain comparison test with 7 different grains to see if one out performs the others. Should have some results or bupkis in mid January.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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ReverendMyc said:
I like the grain combos for the physical properties. I can't say that they have shown better growth in spawn or fruiting ime, though. Some combos just improve workability, like easier to shake while holding more water or more inoculation points but easier to start colonizing from agar. In the end they all grow mush and if there is a difference, I have not observed it yet.

I am playing with quinoa right now and running a myceliated grain comparison test with 7 different grains to see if one out performs the others. Should have some results or bupkis in mid January.



Awesome, it's so cool that you have the time to do that and share the knowledge. It's so helpful!
I'll stay tuned as usual ☺️


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle]
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I am having a very hard time finding bright green size 000 pill capsules.

Has anyone seen any?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator] * 1
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I would think that mold or bacteria would start to show signs in 2 weeks to a month. But I haven't had an uninoculated jar show contamination yet, so don't take that as a certainty. (Okay, one time I couldn't fit the 10th jar in and left is as a control. Don't do that. Hydrated and unsterilized grain grows some nasty stuff pretty fast.)

Ime the contams show up after inoculation from poor sterile practice or dubious inoculant.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
I am having a very hard time finding bright green size 000 pill capsules.

Has anyone seen any?


Haven't seen anything but dark green ones in 000. Pure Caps has a nice, bright green but only in 00.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9]
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Yes, that seems to be my issue. It seems like no one’s making a bright green triple zero size.

When I got the pill press machine, I got triple zero because I wanted to swallow as a few pills as possible.

I kind of regret it because it’s so much harder to source caps now.


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