sanzer said:

Tri-Polar said:

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Feed your cows spores

Don’t over complicate it, it will either work or it won’t

And like Mr. Piggy said, probably the latter, but if you are going to try anything, try feeding your cows spores.

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Yeah I need a lot of spores for this and I'm a bit concerned about any effect it may have on the cows but down the road I might try it.

GenesisCorrupted said:

I’m almost positive. I know exactly what type of sprayer you’re talking about. You can unscrew the tip and then it just comes out in a stream.

That’s gonna happen already. It’s natural selection out there. The mushroom that does the best is the one that needs to be cloned. You don’t need to add more variability.

I also think you should “cheat”
You should go to the marketplace and find somebody who’s been already growing Cubensis outside in a cow pasture in a similar climate to yours. They would be able to send you an agar wedge that is already clean and bred for its environment.

If you made a liquid culture based off of that and you were able to keep it clean. Then you would be spraying some thing that is already what you’re looking for.

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Yes I forgot that the tip comes off. Cool, thanks, and this answered my question about if I needed added grain or if the manure had enough nutrition, and the sprayer is a great idea for inoculation. (If I ever did need to go back to spores, I could also use the sprayer)

Mr Piggy said:

Yeah, that's not going to happen.  Cubes are a tropical/sub-tropical mushroom.  You will have a lot more luck growing them in bins or patches.

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I know, but I guess my interests and goals have changed over the years. If I ever just want an end product I have some many great and easy effective teks from shroomery I can follow and get the end product. And there is a ton of great science that's frankly just too advanced for me, I've tried to learn and I think a bit maybe gets in my mind but probably gets corrupted.

I guess I'm more interested in art than science. No way will it ever be as efficient as the science methods but there is something neat about it. Cheese can be made in stainless steel tanks, sterile environments etc, or it can be made in 500 year old wooden barrels. Wine is the same, it can be made in controlled ways or the old feet and clay vat and open air and old barrels...

Maybe it can't be done with cubes, or it's foraging wild, but I'm looking for something a bit in-between.

An RR reply I saw on an old tiny thread kinda inspired me. He said dried myc was used by the ancient Chinese in their mushroom cultivation.

I'm ok going down a dead end road. And if it does work or even if it fails maybe the journey will interest some people here. Idk.


Thanks for the help everyone sincerely I think I have a better starting place now to chase this. Cheers

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So here’s a thought, why not try to get liberty caps (Psilocybe semilanceata) established in your cow field instead of cubes?  Sounds like you might be in the right environment for it, and you’d be going with the flow instead of fighting your way upstream.

sanzer said:

Tri-Polar said:

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Feed your cows spores

Don’t over complicate it, it will either work or it won’t

And like Mr. Piggy said, probably the latter, but if you are going to try anything, try feeding your cows spores.

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Yeah I need a lot of spores for this and I'm a bit concerned about any effect it may have on the cows but down the road I might try it.

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A single spore print can contain millions of spores, and spores are tasteless and non psychoactive, they have 0 effect on the cows.

You could easily make some spore solution and mix it into your water trough, fuck it, take liberty cap spores and cube spores and put them in the water and you just might end up with something

StophJS said:

Anybody have any insight into yields of two tubs vs one tub of double the depth (same ratio)?

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Meanwhile said:

I was going to start getting into cross breeding and such but...after reading that I'll stick to what I got for now I'll revisit at a later date XD

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Haha I’m sorry if my explanation was a bit tedious. The truth is practically there’s nothing to sciencey about cross breeding. It has been tried and documented so many times that many people attempt it and totally succeed without any fundamental understanding of what is happening on a cellular level.

It can be accident polished but I think it is important to know the fundamentals first, always. It wasn’t my intent to discourage you, but rather try to make a sometimes problematic and often difficult to grasp concepts more accessible to the layperson

Sometimes I am not the best at it

fiddle_head said:

QQ
would anyone find a comprehensive visual guide for aseptic technique inside the sab useful? Like a pictorial and gif/video series breaking down all the basic techniques and more: I see so many people ask questions like how do I do this or that and how do I set this up. I want those questions to go away.

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fiddle_head said:

QQ
would anyone find a comprehensive visual guide for aseptic technique inside the sab useful? Like a pictorial and gif/video series breaking down all the basic techniques and more: I see so many people ask questions like how do I do this or that and how do I set this up. I want those questions to go away.

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