Fezzgig said:

Just a quick question.  I have a one quart jar with WBS spawn that is ready for bulk.  I had a bunch more, but had trich and tossed it.

I have a small 20 quart monotub that I intended to use the whole jar on. However, I ended up prepping a 64 quart tub as well. 

So, I have one quart of clean spawn.  Should I use the entire quart on the small tub or is it possible to make it stretch for both tubs?  I don’t mind having patience if it just takes longer to fruit.

Alternatively, I had the idea of using 3/4 of the spawn on the small tub and using the remainder to spawn several more WBS jars.

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Fezzgig said:

Just a quick question.  I have a one quart jar with WBS spawn that is ready for bulk.  I had a bunch more, but had trich and tossed it.

I have a small 20 quart monotub that I intended to use the whole jar on. However, I ended up prepping a 64 quart tub as well. 

So, I have one quart of clean spawn.  Should I use the entire quart on the small tub or is it possible to make it stretch for both tubs?  I don’t mind having patience if it just takes longer to fruit.

Alternatively, I had the idea of using 3/4 of the spawn on the small tub and using the remainder to spawn several more WBS jars.

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Fezzgig said:

Sure.  I moved them outside real quick because my lighting inside always casts shadows that look like contam.





Edit: I said “them” but this is one jar.

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fiddle_head said:

too unwieldy. if you wanted to do it, fill the bin with water to float the sub. if you can't do that its not worth it imo.

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AzureCultivator said:

Fezzgig said:

Sure.  I moved them outside real quick because my lighting inside always casts shadows that look like contam.





Edit: I said “them” but this is one jar.

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Thanks. This jar is bacterial. This isn’t clean spawn

I’d go closer to 1:1 or maybe even top fruit. And, no worries. It takes time to see contamination and then more time to exclude it

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Smellyhobbit said:

To answer the substrate question:

Sometimes you can squeeze a first flush out of bacterial spawn by going at a low spawn:substrate ratio because of colonization times.

A 1:1 colonizes and therefor fruits much faster than a 1:4 because there’s less material for your mycelium to claim. You have to remember bacterial grains are sick, literally suffering from a bacterial infection like you or me would be sick. Now imagine being busted up into a thousand pieces while sick. You now have an infected AND weakened organism being asked to perform work, so you want to give it the easiest task possible. It’s not even a guarantee that your tub will succeed, but it gives it the least amount of work to do between jar and fruit.

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Fezzgig said:

Smellyhobbit said:

To answer the substrate question:

Sometimes you can squeeze a first flush out of bacterial spawn by going at a low spawn:substrate ratio because of colonization times.

A 1:1 colonizes and therefor fruits much faster than a 1:4 because there’s less material for your mycelium to claim. You have to remember bacterial grains are sick, literally suffering from a bacterial infection like you or me would be sick. Now imagine being busted up into a thousand pieces while sick. You now have an infected AND weakened organism being asked to perform work, so you want to give it the easiest task possible. It’s not even a guarantee that your tub will succeed, but it gives it the least amount of work to do between jar and fruit.

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Not trying to be pedantic, I’m very much a noob and want to learn as much as I can.  If the goal with bacterial spawn is to make the least amount of work for the mycelium and fruit as quickly as possible, would it be even better to just dump the spawn into an even smaller tub at a 1:0 ratio. In other words, just see what I get from WBS alone?  Or will a 1:1 produce more?  Last time, it seemed to be going well and then I got trich after 14 days in bulk. 

I’ve been trying since January to get this going and it’s been one setback after another.  At this point, a handful of shrooms would be a joy.

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UtahGetMeTwo said:

salubrious said:

UtahGetMeTwo said:

I used the tall half pint jars for my first grow and they took a good 3+ weeks to fully colonize/start pinning in the jar.

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Cheers Utah…will persevere

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Cheers sir.

999999999 said:

yeah but this one is no bueno, sorry to say.
Mycelium is creamy and it's already too wet inside, bacteria took a leg up

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Mr Piggy said:

Animate cream cheese.

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Listen to these cultivators, though. They knows what they talkin about. May want to take another crack at running some new jars.

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