ThurmanMurman said:

Im far from a TC, but I think you're working yourself into a frenzy here, amigo. Your day 7 pic looks to me like it's fully colonized or real close, if not. There's going to be a bit of lag time between when you think its fully colonized and when you start seeing signs of pinning. You're going to be waiting on your tub whether you're climbing the walls in anticipation, or chillin out and letting it run its course. In the immortal words of my former cellmate- just relax and let it happen.

Is this your first or only tub? I have a hell of a time being patient when I'm waiting on one grow to get me going. My first shoebox since coming back to this is just now pinning, and brother, I totally get it. I've been keeping myself busy with agar work and Jerry Springer reruns. I think you're in good shape though man.

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GenesisCorrupted said:

That second plate does not make me happy. It does not fill me with confidence in the LC.

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ThurmanMurman said:

GenesisCorrupted said:

That second plate does not make me happy. It does not fill me with confidence in the LC.

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I think I might be starting to get an eye for this, bc I thought the same thing.

Stoph - how much time elapsed between inoculation and when you saw growth on your plates? Did the two start showing at the same time or was that 2nd one ahead of the 1st?

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QuantumZ00 said:

ThurmanMurman said:

Im far from a TC, but I think you're working yourself into a frenzy here, amigo. Your day 7 pic looks to me like it's fully colonized or real close, if not. There's going to be a bit of lag time between when you think its fully colonized and when you start seeing signs of pinning. You're going to be waiting on your tub whether you're climbing the walls in anticipation, or chillin out and letting it run its course. In the immortal words of my former cellmate- just relax and let it happen.

Is this your first or only tub? I have a hell of a time being patient when I'm waiting on one grow to get me going. My first shoebox since coming back to this is just now pinning, and brother, I totally get it. I've been keeping myself busy with agar work and Jerry Springer reruns. I think you're in good shape though man.

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This is literally my first tub in life  despite a long lifetime of experiences with psychedelic and being aware of their therapeutic value.

I have heaaavy anxiety which is one of the reasons for this project (my docs are out of medications they can try and I've been working on being put on ketamine treatment for years). I know I can work myself up lol.

I guess what really has me a bit nervous is ive identified a few key features of my cakes so I can remember when something if significance has changed and like the whole tub hasn't shifted almost at all that i could see in last two days. Also since all four corners of the cake are lifting away from the monotub sides it's clearly drinking.

Plus my early realization that I really didn't put enough CVG mix in imo. the cake is too thin in my completely inexperienced view. I'm gonna take a pic to show you the thickness in a bit

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StophJS said:

If you see this after five days, are you going to assume these are clean LC syringes or wait longer?

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Seriously_trippin said:

Damn that's a lot to chew on. That logic makes sense but then ya got newer growers leaning towards 95 -104 makes it hard to know, but one of those threads in particular I'll read again tomorrow thanks. Just makes me even more confused as to who's right but that guy had a strong argument

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I understand the irony, being I’m not a TC, but don’t listen to what “new growers lean towards”, new growers lean towards growing their shrooms without light, misting and fanning, sending bacterial spawn, trying to make automated spaceships out of monotubs, etc

New growers lean a lot of ways, that is the importance of



Listen to the TCs, and then experiment from there in whichever way suits your fancy, but as you are learning I’d highly recommend you to get the convention down before considering the input of new growers.

QuantumZ00 said:

fiddle_head said:

just keep it around until it molds out. that way you know. do you have pics? there might be some sort of other problem.

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Sure. Although I don't think it's really stalled yet as we are only starting day nine I'm probably being paranoid.

This is day three approx.



This is how it looked by day seven:




I'm on mid day nine now and not much change at all from early day seven.


And I'll take another pic of the tub momentarily, but I have seen very little change since this early day seven vs mid day nine. I can notice little difference at a casual glance without opening my lid fifty billion times and being really anal retentive.

I definitely thought I'd be seeing lots of primordia and pins at this point at least...

I guess the anxiety is only due to how fast it took to get to this stage only to not see much last few days. The four corners of the cake are 'pulling away' from the sides of the monotub, but there are still streaks of water coming down all four sides so FAE and humidity doesn't seem too off. Droplets visible on top, CVG mix was moistened to field capacity prior to mixing with spawn.  Evaporation is what encourages pinsets and water is definitely evaporating, but... I dunno. Probably first time jitters.

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Forgot to say I suspect my substrate might be too small for this fruiting stage , which is stalling the grow. This was my first tub and so I didn't do an adequate job measuring three or four inches of substrate/spawn mix and it looks more like two and a quarter inches of substrate for five half pint jars and one small bag of spawn.

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Phaethon said:

The condensation and uncolonized bits of grains pushed up against the glass probably spell bacteria. I don't really see the "ice cream" look of a badly bacterial jar, though. If it breaks up easily it's probably not too bad.

Might want to spawn that jar separately if the other ones look a lot better. Have a 6 qt shoebox or a 2 gallon Ziploc bag?

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fiddle_head said:

Oh that’s all totally normal. My last tub took like 2 weeks from full colonization to start pinning.

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GenesisCorrupted said:

You make it sound like there was a single particle that was bad floating around in your LC.

If you have a drop of something that had contaminant in it. That whole syringe is contaminated.

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