LewDoja said:

Tri-Polar said:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?forum%5B%5D=f2&words=Dehydrate&namebox=&expert=1&replybox=&how=all&where=body&tosearch=both&newerval=6&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=y&minwords=&maxwords=&limit=25&sort=r&way=d

The consensus from TCs has generally been to dry them hot and fast to lock in potency

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  I almost always tick that last box "show 1 resut per thread"

The degradation of the active alkaloids is from oxidation in aqueous solution....or similarly. So removing water quickly, helps limit the negative effects of oxygen. Though I suppose heat will damage it not just oxidize it (thermal degradation.) it's pretty safe within the limits of retail dehydrators

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Hmmmmm

Seriously_trippin said:

Oh

GenesisCorrupted said:

I use a quite small dehydrator.
I intend to get a nice freeze dryer at some point but for now I don’t see an issue just throwing it into the dehydrator for about 12 hours.

Mine doesn’t go up that high, but everything comes out cracker dry.

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Hells yeah I'll get a normal food dehydrator then and I can make my apple chips ^^ it does say you can set it to 95-104 degrees.

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ThurmanMurman said:

I was planning to fill the syringe most of the way with LC and then have a small jar of sterile water with a silicone port, then draw up the water. The best I've got right now is to treat the silicone as a one time use and then remove it and reapply. There's probably a better way - honestly, Ive only got 3 grows separating me from being a total noob, and I've never made LC, so this idea is a work in progress for sure.

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QuantumZ00 said:

Quick question, how long after you spawn to bulk (B+ or Golden Teacher or Burma strains) should I start seeing pins and fruiting starts (the absolute latest on average it would be) ? Just trying to figure out when you should think a tub had stalled before taking any drastic action.

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fiddle_head said:

there is no hard and fast answer. every culture is different. ape and pe vars can take longer, etc. 21 days or sooner is a good benchmark, assuming your spawn was clean and coir properly hydrated.

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QuantumZ00 said:

fiddle_head said:

there is no hard and fast answer. every culture is different. ape and pe vars can take longer, etc. 21 days or sooner is a good benchmark, assuming your spawn was clean and coir properly hydrated.

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I've read enough research around here to know that, it's why I said 'on average what's the absolute latest I should start seeing fruits', because I wanted to know the absolute luckiest maximum chance I had to produce fruits before "giving up" on a tub. I've read cases where people brought tubs back to fruit after months stalled (resurrection Tek? lol), but I know that's nowhere near typical.

Thank you for the information sounds like the answer is if I still don't have pin sets by day 21 of spawning to bulk I can safely dispose of it outside without that nagging feeling that if I just waited a little longer id produce something. 🤗

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fiddle_head said:

just keep it around until it molds out. that way you know. do you have pics? there might be some sort of other problem.

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Sure. Although I don't think it's really stalled yet as we are only starting day nine I'm probably being paranoid.

This is day three approx.



This is how it looked by day seven:




I'm on mid day nine now and not much change at all from early day seven.


And I'll take another pic of the tub momentarily, but I have seen very little change since this early day seven vs mid day nine. I can notice little difference at a casual glance without opening my lid fifty billion times and being really anal retentive.

I definitely thought I'd be seeing lots of primordia and pins at this point at least...

I guess the anxiety is only due to how fast it took to get to this stage only to not see much last few days. The four corners of the cake are 'pulling away' from the sides of the monotub, but there are still streaks of water coming down all four sides so FAE and humidity doesn't seem too off. Droplets visible on top, CVG mix was moistened to field capacity prior to mixing with spawn.  Evaporation is what encourages pinsets and water is definitely evaporating, but... I dunno. Probably first time jitters.

edit:

Forgot to say I suspect my substrate might be too small for this fruiting stage , which is stalling the grow. This was my first tub and so I didn't do an adequate job measuring three or four inches of substrate/spawn mix and it looks more like two and a quarter inches of substrate for five half pint jars and one small bag of spawn.

QuantumZ00 said:

fiddle_head said:

just keep it around until it molds out. that way you know. do you have pics? there might be some sort of other problem.

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Sure. Although I don't think it's really stalled yet as we are only starting day nine I'm probably being paranoid.

This is day three approx.



This is how it looked by day seven:




I'm on mid day nine now and not much change at all from early day seven.


And I'll take another pic of the tub momentarily, but I have seen very little change since this early day seven vs mid day nine. I can notice little difference at a casual glance without opening my lid fifty billion times and being really anal retentive.

I definitely thought I'd be seeing lots of primordia and pins at this point at least...

I guess the anxiety is only due to how fast it took to get to this stage only to not see much last few days. The four corners of the cake are 'pulling away' from the sides of the monotub, but there are still streaks of water coming down all four sides so FAE and humidity doesn't seem too off. Droplets visible on top, CVG mix was moistened to field capacity prior to mixing with spawn.  Evaporation is what encourages pinsets and water is definitely evaporating, but... I dunno. Probably first time jitters.

edit:

Forgot to say I suspect my substrate might be too small for this fruiting stage , which is stalling the grow. This was my first tub and so I didn't do an adequate job measuring three or four inches of substrate/spawn mix and it looks more like two and a quarter inches of substrate for five half pint jars and one small bag of spawn.

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