GenesisCorrupted said:

I have a couple jars like that too.
Nothing lost by letting them cook longer.

---

Sweet thanks geneisis I don't mind playing the waiting game to let em all catch up I was just worried 10 or 11 days instead of 7 wouldn't be good for em. I know pinning is something that indicates they want to fruit or something to that effect but it's not pinning yet and it's good to know that even if they do I can let em cook a bit longer

sanzer said:

monokaryon ? is that from a single spore being germinated on agar? and dikaryon is ms and then clones from that are still Dikaryon just as a monokaryon can also be fruited and cloned?

hypothetical are taking spore prints from every cap of an f1 grow and mixing it into a single solution and continuing this for several generations?

taking a spore print from each clone and put the spores onto that grain with the clone?

I'm trying to adapt this from a cattle breeding thing I'm working on.

wanting to achieve a "composite" that is "linebred" in a "closed herd" starting with as many "breeds" as possible. adapting the genetics to environment and type .

---

Quote:

ChatGPT

Diakaryon vs mono

"A diakaryon is a type of cell that contains two separate, genetically distinct nuclei within a single cytoplasm. This condition is commonly found in certain fungi, particularly in the life cycle of Basidiomycetes and some Ascomycetes. In these fungi, the two nuclei remain distinct and do not immediately fuse after the fusion of the two cells from different mating types.

On the other hand, a monokaryon is a cell that contains only one nucleus. In the context of fungal life cycles, monokaryotic cells typically occur before the formation of the diakaryon, during the haploid stage after spores have germinated.

In summary:

Diakaryon: A cell with two separate, distinct nuclei.
Monokaryon: A cell with a single nucleus."

---

Bra said:

In my own experience, it's better to dry them out at a lower temperature, such as 40°C or 35°C. It works well for smaller shrooms, but I couldn't imagine drying a huge chunk like that. It also depends on the humidity in your room.

I'd say that I'd stick with a lower temperature, not more than 40°C, and dry them until they're cracker-dry. Then, storage plays a big role - to avoid moisture, use desiccants, and to avoid oxidation, use oxygen absorbers or infuse the jars with argon or another inert gas. Again, that's how I would do it, just speaking from my personal experience - shrooms dried at 60°C were weaker than those dried at room temperature. If you're about to make dehydrated apples, I'd stick with a food dehydrator, probably, and dry shrooms at the lowest possible temperature. I've never tried a special mushroom dehydrator, so I couldn't say anything about that, but it seems to be pretty much the same as a food dehydrator, just labeled as a mushroom dehydrator.

---

GenesisCorrupted said:

Someone mentioned that freeze drying the mushrooms preserves more potency.

---

GenesisCorrupted said:

I use a quite small dehydrator.
I intend to get a nice freeze dryer at some point but for now I don’t see an issue just throwing it into the dehydrator for about 12 hours.

Mine doesn’t go up that high, but everything comes out cracker dry.

---

salubrious said:

Hi friends, how are we looking here…I’m guessing roughly 4-5 days to go?

Brown rice with agar chunks 31.07

Natalensis

---

Tri-Polar said:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?forum%5B%5D=f2&words=Dehydrate&namebox=&expert=1&replybox=&how=all&where=body&tosearch=both&newerval=6&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=y&minwords=&maxwords=&limit=25&sort=r&way=d

The consensus from TCs has generally been to dry them hot and fast to lock in potency

---

  I almost always tick that last box "show 1 resut per thread"

The degradation of the active alkaloids is from oxidation in aqueous solution....or similarly. So removing water quickly, helps limit the negative effects of oxygen. Though I suppose heat will damage it not just oxidize it (thermal degradation.) it's pretty safe within the limits of retail dehydrators


Edit:
Don't forget the diy toggle switch , to cut power to the heating element.

LewDoja said:

salubrious said:

Hi friends, how are we looking here…I’m guessing roughly 4-5 days to go?

Brown rice with agar chunks 31.07

Natalensis

---

Not really seeing anything that screams needing to wait 4-5 days.
Unless I'm missing something, those look about ready to shake and spawn  if recovery is quick.

---

Tri-Polar said:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?forum%5B%5D=f2&words=Dehydrate&namebox=&expert=1&replybox=&how=all&where=body&tosearch=both&newerval=6&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=y&minwords=&maxwords=&limit=25&sort=r&way=d

The consensus from TCs has generally been to dry them hot and fast to lock in potency

---