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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Do you use gypsum?

I haven’t gotten any. I’ve heard it mentioned very rarely. Does it actually offer enough benefit to get into rotation?

I haven’t needed any because I haven’t been using any really clumpy grains, but I’m trying WBS.
For this first batch, I’m not using any, but I’m curious.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
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There is no reason to ever used gypsum with cubes.  Ever.

There is also no reason to ever use it with grain prep, ever.  If you need it in grain prep you are not preparing your grain correctly and should be focusing on your technique and procedure instead of slapping duct tape on a sinking oil tanker.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
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I used it in wbs like 6yrs ago when it was the rage and all it did was make a gummy layer in the bottom of my buckets. Haven’t used it since.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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Probably why I don’t hear it mentioned very often.
What mushrooms benefit from it?

Because I’ve been growing penis envy, and I don’t really have a need for it.

But I am going to do a batch of Semps.
I’ve also heard those are very similar to growing cubes.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy] * 5
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Clumpy grains happen from starches. At least in my experience..

Starches cone from exploded grain. No exploded grain no sticky starch.

Prep the grains properly and life becomes way easier.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 4
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GenesisCorrupted said:
The second flush is looking pretty good, but I’m not seeing the tiny droplets on the surface and it’s bothering me.

I’m regretting that I didn’t think to dunk it for 24 hours like a giant cake. I’m really regretting it actually.

Would it be possible to cover up holes and have some of the moisture returned to the surface?

I really don’t want to spray.



In my experience surface conditions are the most important for the initial pinset. After that as long as there’s still adequate moisture in the substrate it will keep pumping out fruits. I also feel like dunking a whole tub is kind of counter productive. I never mist until after the first harvest and then I soak that bitch. If you don’t wanna directly mist your shrooms then pour like half a cup of water down the side of the tub wall to bottom water. I like going with a small amount of water to see how much it absorbs and then you can always add more. Main reason is I don’t like tipping tubs to drain them.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: TPython] * 2
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Arctic_Fox said:


They're definitely not clean cultures. The left side of the one in the image is the best looking one I have. I'm just trying to decide if I should bother trying to revive it on a new plate, or if I should toss it. I guess there's nothing to lose by trying.




You can try hot pour or I recommend to try method I described in below thread.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28829775


As for old plates... Recently I have put 11 months old, dry AF plate pin into new agar and was very pleased with results.

This :
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Turned into this


Of course after some transfers.

Tissue were only 4 days after fresh pin clone and mature fruit clone which I made same day. Now this culture is very vital and fast. Got it on grains, spawning tomorrow.


TBH I started thinking about treating old plates with dry pins as a culture long term storage method.

Edited by Mycopatic (06/30/24 04:45 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
Kunta Kente said:
Mr Piggy said:
if this is the potency loss study that noobs have been posting lately, it's already been shot full of more holes than swiss cheese.



Links to the holes?



It's the thread you posted and then everyone shredded.  15 fruits and no control does not a study make :shrug:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28803328



I saw this too. So again I wonder, is there a forums consensus on about how long frozen tea cubes would retain acceptable potency?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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It adds minerals RR swears by adding some to grain soak  but with small time production of cubes it probably helps.... A LITTLE BIT. But any difference will be  negligible

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
I think it does matter I like when the mushrooms grow up in the right direction. It grows crazy if it doesn’t have a light source I’ve already read up on it.



Seems to me that light does make some kind of difference. My recent flush of semperviva, they all turned towards the indirect light from the room’s window like sunflowers. Pressed their caps up against the side of the box and all. When I turned the box, they’d curl around to face it again within 24-36 hours. Just like flowers. So I take it they like light, otherwise they wouldn’t do that. And this behavior was even much more pronounced now as opposed to in May, now that it’s around the solstice and my area has about 20 hours of daylight.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus] * 2
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Mycodemus said:
Mr Piggy said:
Kunta Kente said:
Mr Piggy said:
if this is the potency loss study that noobs have been posting lately, it's already been shot full of more holes than swiss cheese.



Links to the holes?



It's the thread you posted and then everyone shredded.  15 fruits and no control does not a study make :shrug:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28803328



I saw this too. So again I wonder, is there a forums consensus on about how long frozen tea cubes would retain acceptable potency?



9months for me and they were ‘fine’.

However my stupid non experiments are hardly a consensus.

Try for yourself and report back.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus]
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They all do the lean towards it yeah.
I even made a thread about this just to confirm what I had already been suspecting. Just light in the room is enough.

Somebody theorize that using an actual UV spectrum light on the mushrooms before gathering them increases their vitamin B content by some crazy percentage.

But it doesn’t seem like light is really important unless you’re in a completely dark environment and it needs something to grow towards.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
It adds minerals RR swears by adding some to grain soak  but with small time production of cubes it probably helps.... A LITTLE BIT. But any difference will be  negligible



You mean the guy who hasn't updated his techniques in 20+ years and hasn't participated in the forums for a decade?

I get that he did a lot for the craft back in the day, but I don't think people should be referencing him anymore.

Also I have not seen any proof of it helping cubes, most of it comes down to getting conditions right.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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RoscoeReturns said:
Impulse sealer recommendations? Cheap Amazon unit shit the bed. I would like to spend for quality this time.



If your still taking recommendations, and if you're willing to pay a decent amount of money for quality, I highly recommend this:

https://myersmushrooms.com/product/impulse-sealer-and-stand/

Automatic in every way, but also has the option for manual usage via foot pedal, which is super convenient. You set the seal and congeal times, hit the pedal, and let it do it's thing. The width of the seal is great, too.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy] * 1
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mushboy said:
Clumpy grains happen from starches. At least in my experience..

Starches cone from exploded grain. No exploded grain no sticky starch.

Prep the grains properly and life becomes way easier.



Appreciate all the feedback.  My grain prep so far has been with rye berries.  Following Hamloaf's Simple Rye Prep, except I use Beef’s herb dryer to lay out the grains in a single layer for a few hours or overnight.



Hasn’t been clumpy, if anything maybe too dry, we’ll see how it is when I spawn to bulk.



I was hoping to skip some steps and do a low prep, but some low prep teks I’ve read include gypsum to reduce clumping, which is apparently more common in low prep. 

Fahtster's really easy Rye Prep

Spitball Jedi's Quick Rye Prep

DE is used in food sciences as a flow improver and anti-clumping agent, thought I’d check the brain trust on that.

The wisdom of the elders is not lost on me. I’ll get a few more grows under my belt with reliable methods before trying to cut corners and mess around.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ArkaNaut] * 1
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I actually did find that grain drying thing on Amazon. It was only like 15 bucks and I can put it above my shower with the curtain rod.
Works great.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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Lol I forgot to add a marble to my LC jars before the PC. Should I restart or will it be fine with some swirling action alone


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Buckdog] * 2
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Josex Doesn’t even use it.
I put little stir bars in mine just because I don’t want to have to shake. Also, I got the stirring bar set up so I feel like I need to use it at this point.:lol:
but there’s no reason you can’t just give it a little swirl.

I will say the benefit of tearing it up is that it is easier to pull into a syringe.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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That's what I was figuring lol. I did add a syringe to the PC cycle with water in it, assuming it survived I'll use that to inoculate. But I still wonder if just sucking up some broth with a sterile needle and using that to shoot the sample back in would work


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Buckdog] * 1
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Buckdog said:
Lol I forgot to add a marble to my LC jars before the PC. Should I restart or will it be fine with some swirling action alone



Just swirl it when u walk by the thing


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