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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tiamo]
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Tiamo said:
Screwup said:
Tiamo said:
My coir just does not want to expand. Same brand again, 4th brick this time. I've poured boiling water on the brick, an hour later the brick is still the same size sitting in hot water. The next day the brick is slightly larger sitting in lukewarm water. I can then break it up by hand (very hard) but the chunks coming off don't seem to absorb any of the water. Now I just have coco chunks in cold water. If I spend even more time I can sqeeze the chunks and force them to absorb the water.

Anyone ever had coir that behaves this way and how to fix it or should I just trash it? I've spawned some tubs with it but its about an hour of work to get every brick "hydrated" in this way and yields very little sub.



I have a very hard time believing you’re buying the correct post pics of items please.



This is the product: https://amzn.eu/d/9XRWhbs

I read the reviews now and lots of people saying they're having the same issue. :facepalm:

Here it is expanded to about 4 liters from a 600 gram brick.



Here it is spawned to a tub (at about 7 days after spawning)





Your tub looks good; but that coir is mostly fiber and not pith. The good coco coir is mostly pith.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: huey.bluey]
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Yea, I have some tubs under my belt but this is the first time encountering coir this shitty. Normally it is more like dirt. This feels like a bunch of strings.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tiamo]
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Exo terra worked well for me. I had nothing but failure for long time with eco earth. Soon as I switched to exo terra I started getting flushes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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Should I pick these Penis Envy or wait til the smaller ones mature? Attaching 2 pics for reference. Not the easiest to photograph through myco bags. This is only my 2nd bag. Good mix of lighter sized fruits and a few larger fruits. Thanks!



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mattpen]
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Are P. Natalensis truly that much more agressive? I did my T0 swabs, and transferred to a T1, but TBH the T0 plate even after transfer continued getting nicer looking.

The mycelium isnt uniform, but it feels like a dense jungle. Can it be trusted? Looks less nice on the transfer plates, but Ill transfer again. Still might try the T0 on grain.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
Exo terra worked well for me. I had nothing but failure for long time with eco earth. Soon as I switched to exo terra I started getting flushes.



I've always used eco earth with no problems.

I know people say that looser sub is better for bacterial spawn, and the really fibrous stuff probably allows more air into the sub.  Perhaps that has something to do with it.

Huskies said:
Are P. Natalensis truly that much more agressive? I did my T0 swabs, and transferred to a T1, but TBH the T0 plate even after transfer continued getting nicer looking.

The mycelium isnt uniform, but it feels like a dense jungle. Can it be trusted? Looks less nice on the transfer plates, but Ill transfer again. Still might try the T0 on grain.



I've struggled a bit to assess my nats plates, as it does grow a little differently.  I thought my germ plate looked okay too, so I put some to grain while doing more transfers and waiting for the growth.  They ended up more bacterial than it looked on the plate.  I do think it will fruit something though, and hopefully soon.

If you have tubs to spare, go ahead and put it to grain, and just keep your expectations low.  And of course keep transferring too.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314] * 1
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My spawn looks pretty clean. Theres almost no condensation on these jars and a simple shake with one hand broke it up.



Had 9 more like it. Just spawned 5 to the rest of my exo terra (sticking to coco bliss from now on) and 5 to the rest of my eco earth. Using both 1:2 and 1:3 ratios for each type of coir. Very curious to see the results.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
My spawn looks pretty clean. Theres almost no condensation on these jars and a simple shake with one hand broke it up.

Had 9 more like it. Just spawned 5 to the rest of my exo terra (sticking to coco bliss from now on) and 5 to the rest of my eco earth. Using both 1:2 and 1:3 ratios for each type of coir. Very curious to see the results.



That'll be a good test.  Make a thread when you have some results.  :popcorn:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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Nichrome said:
Rabbits are easy to keep, good companions, and shit out plenty of free poo that is great for pans.



Ah man,... did you have to write that? My gf isn't really into the org, but looks on my screen from time to time. Now you gave her a reason to pressure me to get Wabbits >.< ah damn.... at least you can still eat em I guess xD


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shrimps]
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QQ: could I spore print a sterile single use agar dish? I saw a pic of a cap in a dish in the outdoor grow there and it got me thinking.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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Kinoko314 said:
AspectOfTheCreator said:
My spawn looks pretty clean. Theres almost no condensation on these jars and a simple shake with one hand broke it up.

Had 9 more like it. Just spawned 5 to the rest of my exo terra (sticking to coco bliss from now on) and 5 to the rest of my eco earth. Using both 1:2 and 1:3 ratios for each type of coir. Very curious to see the results.



That'll be a good test.  Make a thread when you have some results.  :popcorn:



Will do. Will have to wait awhile as theyre penis envy


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pnin]
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Pnin said:
QQ: could I spore print a sterile single use agar dish? I saw a pic of a cap in a dish in the outdoor grow there and it got me thinking.



You could, but it wouldn’t be particularly useful if the fruit wasn’t grown in vitro.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Can I make a GLC from ATL 7 MS on millet and expect those jars to form stones still later?

If it does form stones would they be worth cloning?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tiamo]
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Tiamo said:
My coir just does not want to expand. Same brand again, 4th brick this time. I've poured boiling water on the brick, an hour later the brick is still the same size sitting in hot water. The next day the brick is slightly larger sitting in lukewarm water. I can then break it up by hand (very hard) but the chunks coming off don't seem to absorb any of the water. Now I just have coco chunks in cold water. If I spend even more time I can sqeeze the chunks and force them to absorb the water.

Anyone ever had coir that behaves this way and how to fix it or should I just trash it? I've spawned some tubs with it but its about an hour of work to get every brick "hydrated" in this way and yields very little sub.




I've had coir act like that more than once. Every time I used it anyway, the grow was shitty or a complete failure in the end. I'm not claiming to know why it is but what I can say is go get some different coir.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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I should probably add that i break my coir up by hand as best i can before hydration. I never just pour boiling water on a solid brick so maybe thats why ive never had that problem.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
Upside down impossible penis envy mutant. What would cloning this lead to?





Appears to be erectile dysfunction.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
I should probably add that i break my coir up by hand as best i can before hydration. I never just pour boiling water on a solid brick so maybe thats why ive never had that problem.



Are people using coir bricks over loose coir because of cost or something else?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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Most things I read online called for bricks and all I could get on short notice was loose. I was pleasantly surprised with how well the loose turned out. Maybe people get bricks because it’s often labeled as being “washed” and “sterilized”?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Subhuti] * 3
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It is just way cheaper and much more available to buy bricks. Bricks also stack up very nicely and take up 10x less room than the same amount of loose coir.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
It is just way cheaper and much more available to buy bricks. Bricks also stack up very nicely and take up 10x less room than the same amount of loose coir.



Yes, I agree with those disadvantages. As a new grower to the sport i had a 50L bag of loose coir from my outdoor gardening activities so I figured "what the hell" and tried it. I have used it for two grows now and no problems, I never tried bricks so I cannot compare.


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