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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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Kinoko314 said:
Is that post-shake? If so, how long ago was it?  How long ago did you inoculate?



Those jars were inoculated around 8-12. They were shaken around 80%, recovered well. They were left to consolidate (to ensure full colonization of any grains on top or in the middle) for about 5 days then spawned around 9-2. The jars of different varities were indistinguishable from each other. Here are some other tubs.













The bottom 2 are penis envy, the rest tidal wave. The penis envy always get an orange tinge on top. The last tub that looked like that fruited well though so im just leaving it alone. Theres 2 other penis envy shoeboxes but theyre cased, some myc is starting to poke through. All these tubs were spawned on 9-2 at either 1:1 or 1:2 ratio. No top layers because they always seem to contaminate. I gave one a top layer as an experiment and low and behold its contaminating with blue.

Edit: heres an example of the plates i use. May even be the exact plate. Looks organized and symetrical but what do i know. Others told me it was good.





I have tons of other plates that look identical and theyre still around and havent contammed. Only ever seen 1 contam after 4 months.


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Edited by AspectOfTheCreator (09/17/23 01:54 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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I have a couple pints of spawn that are recovering really slow after a shake at full colonization. Pretty sure they're contaminated. Could I just pop em open and stuff some coir on top? Or is that just a trich recipe?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pnin]
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Pnin said:
I have a couple pints of spawn that are recovering really slow after a shake at full colonization. Pretty sure they're contaminated. Could I just pop em open and stuff some coir on top? Or is that just a trich recipe?



Define "really slow" ? How long to see the first fuzzy grains ?

Yes you can absolutely do that. It's called top fruiting. Your spawn will have much more chance to fruit this way because it stays as a block and thus is more resistant to contams. But that's at the expanse of yield.

Or you can try your luck and do a shoebox, depending on what your jars looks like.

Edited by enscred1312 (09/17/23 02:28 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: enscred1312]
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mazatapec monotub 12 days after bulking.
got fews mazatapec monotubs. in the past all are molding after first flush.
this time same lq like before. this yellow/orange color is contamination or just the color from pinning fruit bodies?

those azatapec fruit so fast but it seems the lq jar is contaminated.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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These jars are not post shake. They were inoculated on 9/13. Idk what to use besides oats. None of the other jars have a frosty appearance and idk what is causing the appearance.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NotFromGeorgia]
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NotFromGeorgia said:
CocaineBuffet said:
Bustaboo said:
CaptainPuffy said:
I'm going to try making Agar plates using PP5 ketchup cups. I'm not sure if I should do a pour or no-pour tek. Any advice?



Do no pours. That’s the advantage of those ketchup cups I think.
crack plates



With all respect to Crack I think the consensus now is that a lot of these condiment cups are clean on arrival so you can do hot pours.

I haven't done it myself I am only telling you what I have seen over the past couple years.



the trick seems to be to pour as many as you can the first time, if you leave half the bag of cups to pour later they'll have a lot higher contam chance. i haven't found any with pp5 lids to try no pour with them



I wouldn't open a sleeve of sterile petri plates and not pour every plate. Its kind of a given once the customer breaks that seal any contamination is on them. At least in my mind...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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Definitely any contam introduced is your fault at that pint haha. For what it’s worth I do that all the time and i don’t see contam from it ever


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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I haven't tried it because of that rationale. I kind of have the gun shy approach so I try not to introduce any variable into the equation on my behalf.

I recently stopped using gloves in front of the flow hood and haven't been punished... yet. I might be too cautious these days.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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Caution over carelessness anyway. I’ve cut gloves and iso out of my process entirely in the SAB and things haven’t changed.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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I put the unopened bag of condo cups in the SAB, open the bag and only take a few out at a time. Any I don't use are still in the bag and I reseal it before I take it out. With the cups anyway I think you only run the risk of the top one being exposed to the air inside the SB. The tops are a different story of course but I take those out with the top side facing up.

Only had a few out of hundreds contam before I use them after pouring and have had very few contam after knocking them with something.

YMMV but been working for me.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bajazly]
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What's the consensus on patching a proper casing with pe?

Worth it?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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I've only gotten:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051418/

I used a compressed top layer -- but not a casing.

Then again I've not really run PE :lol: more than once. Soon.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xVadisx] * 1
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Well, id highly recommend a proper peat casing with pe.

Helps with blobs


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Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Millet -- TSC?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xVadisx]
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Is keeping an air purifier going 24/7 in the same room helping/harming at all?

My guess is no but just curious.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: thcee]
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thcee said:
Is keeping an air purifier going 24/7 in the same room helping/harming at all?

My guess is no but just curious.



No.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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what's the rationale behind this? Why does it blob when you don't have a casing.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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Because PE is a mutant freak guided by human hands.  Natural selection would eliminate such mutations, because if it's not dropping spores it's not reproducing.

Why exactly a casing or pseudo-casing works to help prevent blobs I can't tell you.  It has been shown to work again and again, so that's all I need to know.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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Gotcha. cool info. the thing about me is that I need to know why it works so that I can find out a way to fix it. That's my real life profession so my brain works like that too with this crazy hobby.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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What to do with FAE and misting after the first flush? Do I keep regularly misting? I'm assuming that the cake is well hydrated after the dunk and hydration but not quite sure.

What about FAE? thanks guys

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