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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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RoscoeReturns said:
killreflection said:
No pre-drying or anything, straigh into the dehydrator?



Yes.

A dehydrator dries things. Why pre dry before drying?



Kind a like pre boil your agar before you boil it to sterilize it:shrug:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: killreflection]
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killreflection said:


Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

People get away with waiting to dry them so they don't have to run the dehydrator longer. That doesn't mean it's something that should be done


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bajazly]
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Bajazly said:
RoscoeReturns said:
killreflection said:
No pre-drying or anything, straigh into the dehydrator?



Yes.

A dehydrator dries things. Why pre dry before drying?



Kind a like pre boil your agar before you boil it to sterilize it:shrug:



Yeah, it's not thar simple as you think it is. Here is what i came across when i googled "how to dry myshrooms"

https://www.zamnesia.com/content/285-how-to-dry-and-store-magic-mushrooms

Do yoy remember when yoy were beginner? I don't know dude, i'm not ashamed to ask what i don't know almost nothing about.

Edited by killreflection (09/15/23 01:47 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
huey.bluey said:
Do any of these agar plates look salvageable? Or am I better off composting them and starting from new T0->T1 germ plate transfer. I keep seeing these molds. What are they called, how can I properly identify them. They almost look like myc but they are growing far far away from the transfer.



4 and 5 have good growth on them, but what worries me is the persistence of these satellite contams on your other plates. It points to there being a problem with sterile procedure somewhere, and if you transfer healthy myc with bad procedure you’ll just get more contams.

You should do a thorough writeup of your agar process so we can see what’s going wrong. You shouldn’t have growth anywhere besides where you’re placing mycelium.



I put my process in the linked thread.
Ill admit sometimes I would put the lid adjacent the dish so I can hold the transfer plate in one hand to make it more stable, maybe I dropped somethings onto the plates.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: huey.bluey]
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How to do second flush with PF cakes, what's the procedure?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: huey.bluey] * 1
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huey.bluey said:
Smellyhobbit said:
huey.bluey said:
Do any of these agar plates look salvageable? Or am I better off composting them and starting from new T0->T1 germ plate transfer. I keep seeing these molds. What are they called, how can I properly identify them. They almost look like myc but they are growing far far away from the transfer.



4 and 5 have good growth on them, but what worries me is the persistence of these satellite contams on your other plates. It points to there being a problem with sterile procedure somewhere, and if you transfer healthy myc with bad procedure you’ll just get more contams.

You should do a thorough writeup of your agar process so we can see what’s going wrong. You shouldn’t have growth anywhere besides where you’re placing mycelium.



I put my process in the linked thread.
Ill admit sometimes I would put the lid adjacent the dish so I can hold the transfer plate in one hand to make it more stable, maybe I dropped somethings onto the plates.



It's definitely possible you are dropping mold spores onto the underside of lid while you work.

I don't remove my lids all the way to avoid putting anything over the underside of the lid.

I hold the lid with my forefinger and thumb while resting the plate in the rest of my fingers, then I open my hand a little bit using gravity to open the plate.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
It's definitely possible you are dropping mold spores onto the underside of lid while you work.

I don't remove my lids all the way to avoid putting anything over the underside of the lid.

I hold the lid with my forefinger and thumb while resting the plate in the rest of my fingers, then I open my hand a little bit using gravity to open the plate.



Ill have to try this technique.
That sounds more sane.
When the transfer piece is stuck on the scalpel and you are transferring to a no pour PP5 sauce container, how do you loosen and make it fall into the dish? I eventually just slid it on the lip but I don't believe that's ultimately sterile either. It was stuck too far into the scalpel to simply slide off.

Edited by huey.bluey (09/15/23 02:27 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: killreflection]
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killreflection said:
How to do second flush with PF cakes, what's the procedure?



This is outlined in the PF tek post, but basically you can do one of two things. Either 1) heavily mist them until you start seeing new pins or 2) you scrape off old aborts and loose verm, dunk them for 24 hours to rehydrate, Re roll, and place back in the fruiting chamber.

I’ve done both to equal success. Personally I settled on spraying because it was way easier.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Try stiffer agar if you're struggling with stuck transfers


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Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Try stiffer agar if you're struggling with stuck transfers



^ this
also I could reposition it while im still inside the transfer plate.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: killreflection]
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Don't be ashamed man, that's what this thread is for. :thumbup:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
killreflection said:
How to do second flush with PF cakes, what's the procedure?



This is outlined in the PF tek post, but basically you can do one of two things. Either 1) heavily mist them until you start seeing new pins or 2) you scrape off old aborts and loose verm, dunk them for 24 hours to rehydrate, Re roll, and place back in the fruiting chamber.

I’ve done both to equal success. Personally I settled on spraying because it was way easier.



In which one TEK, you mean Evilmushrooms? Thanks, i don't know, heavily mist them how exactly? How many times?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tiamo]
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Tiamo said:
Don't be ashamed man, that's what this thread is for. :thumbup:



Yes, but there are answers that trigger it

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Do these grain jars look to wet? Been out of the PC for about 2 hours.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chumbum]
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Quick question, what's the ideal temp for fruiting?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: killreflection] * 1
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killreflection said:
No pre-drying or anything, straigh into the dehydrator?



I pick my fruits. Clean off the stump of any sub remaining then straight to the dehydrator. The faster you get them dry the better.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chumbum]
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Chumbum said:
Do these grain jars look to wet? Been out of the PC for about 2 hours.




They look a little wet but the moisture will probably be absorbed by the grain over next day or so. I usually give mine a shake straight out the PC to get the grains loose again then a day or two later give them another shake. By then the excess moisure has been absorbed by the grains.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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Zav3r said:
Quick question, what's the ideal temp for fruiting?



Zav3r said:
Quick question, what's the ideal temp for fruiting?



Idk about ideal but 70-75 is good. Room temperature.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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Zav3r said:
Quick question, what's the ideal temp for fruiting?



This is from bodisatta or whatever, TC, he wrote numerous guides on this site

"68-72F is a good temperature range for colonization(incubation) and fruiting. Warm temperatures encourage contaminants so room temperature is encouraged. 65-75 degrees requires no temperature adjustments for colonization or fruiting.
Cubensis mycelium grows as fast as it will from about 75-81 degrees. at above 81-83F speeds are reported to decline again. Below 65F cubensis mycelium will grow but at a slower pace until just before 32F when it will stall. Cubensis doesn't tolerate freezing but jars may be stalled in a fridge for later fruiting once they are fully colonized."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: killreflection] * 1
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killreflection said:
Zav3r said:
Quick question, what's the ideal temp for fruiting?



This is from bodisatta or whatever, TC, he wrote numerous guides on this site

"68-72F is a good temperature range for colonization(incubation) and fruiting. Warm temperatures encourage contaminants so room temperature is encouraged. 65-75 degrees requires no temperature adjustments for colonization or fruiting.
Cubensis mycelium grows as fast as it will from about 75-81 degrees. at above 81-83F speeds are reported to decline again. Below 65F cubensis mycelium will grow but at a slower pace until just before 32F when it will stall. Cubensis doesn't tolerate freezing but jars may be stalled in a fridge for later fruiting once they are fully colonized."



thanks for this

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